DELHI CHALO !!!
This is an earnest appeal to everyone to step forward and join us on 20th May at 8 am in our “Delhi Chalo March” from Maulana Azad Medical College .
We appeal to all the responsible citizens of the country to step forward and support our cause that concerns one and all. We, the Youth for Equality, are a group of like minded young citizens who are against the governments’ illogical reservation policies. We conducted a number of peaceful protests for a month, but were ignored and lathi-charged. Thus we were not left with any other option but to go on strike. We apologize that there would be inconvenience for a short period of time.
Who is going to benefit from these reservation policies? Do you think a common person, working in a road-side dhaba or one who is living in a remote village will be benefited? Our answer is NO. We believe yours will be the same. The people who enjoy the benefits of reservation are the cream of the so-called “backward class”. These people are already economically sound. The really needy are left high and dry.
The government has failed to strengthen the basic infrastructure like primary schools and healthcare. What is the standard of our government schools? How many children continue their schooling beyond 5th class in our country? A reserved category doctor is provided a level playing field with the rest during his 6 year MBBS training. Then why reservations for MD/MS courses? Do you want sub-standard doctors to perform surgeries on you? Atleast the highest level of education should be purely merit based.
This cause affects all of us. This may be our only chance to prevent such atrocious policies from being implemented.
This is an earnest appeal to everyone to step forward and join us on 20th May at 8 am in our “Delhi Chalo March” from Maulana Azad Medical College .
THIS APPEAL IS GOING NOT ONLY TO STUDENTS BUT THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL. IF YOU ARE A SCHOOL or COLLEGE STUDENT / WORKING INDIVIDUAL / A PARENT / SENIOR CITIZEN STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO POSTERITY.
Email: youth4equality@gmail.com
Helpline: 9899832139, 9810760157
We are expecting people from Punjab, Haryana, U.P., Rajasthan, Himachal Pradesh, Uttaranchal. We are in touch with YFE members across the country.
THERES A GOOD NEWS........150 STUDENTS FROM GUJARAT WILL BE JOINING US TOM IN DELHI. Kudos to these people for coming at such short notice.
A CANDLE MARCH IS BEING ORGANISED AT 6 PM IN MUMBAI FROM SHIVAJI PARK TO BANDRA on 20th May. SIMILAR PROTESTS ARE PLANNED IN GUJARAT AND MYSORE. Those cities who cant make it tomorrow to Delhi.......plz organise similar events in your area.
posted by Youth For Equality @ 11:46 am
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297 Comments:
thanks alot...
Good Idea...then even Country like america will come to know the exact social problem in India...and I am sure they will come forward to help the backwards...thanks alot...keep going...
HI Friends,
The whole nation is behind you so please don't let your motivation die out........no matter what we will force the government to take a back seat on this issue else step down from their chairs because they are nothing but a group of incompetent leaders who fail to recognise the needs of our nation.
Where are the General Category Welfare Associations?? Why aren't they stepping forward.
hi friends,
while the rest of the developed world is moving towards a path of social equality,india is treading in exactly the opposite directions:a path towards social inequality.
And then they want to make india the hub of all major activities(read:tourism,commonwealth games,world cup cricket)
Is the govt blind towards the progress the sc/st/obc hv made in the past 60 years(as backward as ever).
TOI 18th may says there is only ~17% enrollment of OBC's in higher edu. and govt. proposes 22% quota(just think of that).
At the age of 87 h'ble hrd minister arjun singh shd be meditating somewhere but he is getting involved in petty politics.
It beats logic that why is the P.M. and U.P.A. chairperson still silent on the issue.may be they do not support arjun singh but r afraid of a backlash within d govt.
Even RAM WILAS PASWAN quoted on 16th may THE PIONEER that all quotas shd b scrapped(imagine a hardliner such as him saying that)
hi im from tamil nadu...
im stuck up in this stink hole...
everyone here talks but no action..
can i come over somewhere nearby during the protests??
avinashapr9@gmail.com..
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shaabaash!!!
these politicians stink,man!!!no one has the spine to be a statesman!!!
and now they will do things IN THE INTERESTS OF THE PATIENTS!!!
oh yes,Dr.Ramadoss!!!you are so obvious in your DIVINE intentions!!I voted for Congress thinking that probably they have some national spirit with their fight against communalism!!but,kudos to SONIA JI,RAHUL JI....you guys have gone a step further....you have divided Indians at the roots.BJP plays it's game by dividing us on the basis of religion!!!All regional parties play the caste,language,etc game!!!HAS ANYONE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT THE PETTY POLITICS OF CASTE,RELIGION,REGION......NO,NEVER!!!we need to wake up guys!!!these CONSTITUTION AMMENDERS are here to serve the country not to destroy it!!!LET'S BEAT THEM AT THEIR GAME......VOTE AGAINST RESERVATION!!!
Does the aam aadmi really care about caste or religion?Don't we all know that all these communal riots have politics behind it?Don't we know that most of the politicians have their conscience for sale?
JAAGO!!INDIA JAAGO!!!
Let us get together for our country's sake!!!
see its simple..
till the level of sitting and giving the entrance exam they dont need reservations(for grad n post grad courses),and for making the OBCs or STs or SCs capable for being able to qualify for the course,the effort is something that goes much deep down level-from the elementary level to the preparation for entrance...right?
Even after so much,if the OBC student is not able to qualify,he is simply incapable of getting into the professional college.Just like those 799 upper class students per seat who want to get in iit.
THen what makes OBCs diffrent from these 799??JUst because they lower classes they should be admitted without merit and talent?how is that justice?
What is the sole reason for your stress on reservations and not improving the overall quality of education for our OBC citizens?
IF the education till 12th has loopholes the direct impact is that a student doesnt get the training required to become a part of an engineering or medical college...so such a person deserves not a single seat.SUch a child may belong to a poor upper class family also,but whatever may have been the reason he still doesnt become deserving of a seat for which his fellow students fight 800 aspirants per seat...in such a situation he is given reservation means we are compromising on quality.This has a direct impact on the development of the country.
Just becoz this child is an OBC,wont make him deserving more than an upper caste student with the same situation.That is why this whole concept of reservations is unfair.
guys,
dont think we r sitting here just watching it all happen from far away.If required,we are even game for a "CHALO DELHI" andolan to open the govt's eyes and pressurise it into realising that we are still alive and have a spine!!!
There is a revolution in my mind
the unrest is palpable
Injustice slaps my face every second hour
Im being crushed by the system
My say doesnt matter
My voice goes unheard
My hunger doesnot stimulate a 'pang'
Even if it did it just peaked and died
like it did for narmada rebels
like it did for Satyenedra Dubey
It might also for the Indian youth too,
Obc or not its a fate ,we essentially are born into.......
People since birth isnt a luxury we choose, we will decide our fate, and not a vote bank, we will fight.
let's get atleast 10000-20000 ppl assembled in india gate ...only then would they take the problem seriously
We in Orissa are in constant touch with each other .So that all our actions are getting co-ordinated .We have a clear vision of what we are willing to and intending to do.
We in Orissa are now appealing all the medicalstudents of India to come under one association,because when we will have our own association our committee members can negotiate and can hold talk unanimously and efficiently.
So do contact us by email phoenix_medicos@yahoo.com
fax 0671-2329294
We intend to hold video-conference through respective Tele medicine Departments, if not feasible then through chat rooms.Do contact us
I suggest that professionals working in companies can also show their support, if not by joining the hunger strike, atleast by tying a black ribbon on their arms, just as they do in Japan.
An open challenge to all medicos n anti-resrvatn ppl....if u realy want equality in educatn for whch u ppl are protestin...then first create equality at d social n mental level too...coz u ppls r stil unaware of d fact...dat howevr meritorious d reservd student n professional is...this country's roots r so sick dat at d very outset they ask u d caste...n then goes al d merit..u ppl cant evn imagin d plight of d backward ppl...isnt it jus too brutal for words...a mental torture...i wana tel u guys dat no SC ST wud b intrstd in it...nd d hike is really protstd from heart evn by d reservd category ppl...but d point wich takes them in its favour is dis discrimination wich rules in this country till d top most levels....can u ppl really do nythn abt it???? daz wat wil b called 'EQUALITY' then...n trst me...each n evry singl person who belongs to d resrvd category wil join hands wit u against dis dirty politics...it really is dirty n treacherous...but try n look at d othr side as wel...n wat lies beneath...
but at d same time...i can really undstnd how it feels wen u r being snatchd of ur rights evn wen uve been workin damn hard...me personally...ive come up from d general category by competin against evry1 n presently in a damn gud position...all coz of my hard work n god...but i wana do sth for my ppl too...
hopin for a nation whr thr wud b no caste creed n discrimination...peace n equality in all respects...
hope u ppl undstnd...
n as far as d protsts r concernd...its commendable...i support them fully..whole heartdly...
bu i hope these ppl wont turn up like d othr conservatives of this country in long run...creatin caste divides n treatin resrvd ppl wit contempt n partiality...
keep upto ur words...
they wil surely apologise for all atrocities...d way its been goin...dis govt wil hav to come down...im damn sure...
im seriously not against it...in fact me n my family appreciate it...but hopefully...wishin it really leads to equality...cant say more...
all d very best to ppl on d hungr strike...god giv them strngth...nd we all here r wit them...me family n some frens also...of DU...
n these efforts wont go waste...
I am a working proffessional,i have anger which i cant show,i cant come out on the streets to join you but yes i am still with u all.I feel helpless because i am unable to do anything,feel as if my hands are tied.The day the mubai students were beaten up i felt like resigning from my company and going to delhi to join u all,but i cant do so as i have my family commitments.i studied in a private school,a private engineering college nad now working in a private company where i have never seen anyone discriminated because he is from so and so caste or is unable to pay fees.i was discussing abt the issue with my colleagues and they have a interesting idea.make collges for obcs and sc st's and reserve setas for the upper castes 40% within the obc and sc st quota make sub reservations for ex service man,green card and so on.try it for some years lets see then how teh statsu improves for the so called depressed classes..we all know..no body can improve their status but them.
hi everybody,
everywhere there is hue and cry by this movement by medicos, but dont forget the blames most prominent of whjich are:
1. patient' suffering-
we are doing our bit to it let the govt answer the rest.
2. its all emotional , no facts involved?
is that true, i suppose its not. wat we need to do is gather some facts that brings out the real face of reservation in last 50-60 yrs in india.how to do it?????????- simple
WE HAVE TO SPEND TIME TO COLLECT DATA REGARDING
1.AVERAGE DURATION TAKEN BY RESERVED CATEGORY TO COMPLETE THE COURSE
2.OVERALL COMMENTS MADE BY FACULTY ON THIS ISSUE
3.NUMBER OF CANDIDATES FROM THE CATEGORIES SUPPOSED TO GET RESERVATIONS WHO ACTUALLY COULD GET THRU ENTRANCE WHERE THERE IS NO RESERVATION
we all are togather despite the distances. maintain it by heart. thanx for bringing this whole issue so strongly in front of everybody.
ONE LAST THING- MEDIA MAY PLAY HAVOC IF THEY WANT TO, BE CAREFUL IN STATEMENTS AND ORGANISE AND DEPUTE SOMNE PERSONS FOR LOCAL CAMPAIGN FOR EXAMPLE THRU WRITTEN FACTS AND APPEALS (PRINTED) TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO COMMON PUBLIC WITH NEWSPAPERS BY VENDORS
true, school students FULLY SUPPORT you and your spirit. we are all with you against this gimmick.
the fight is not against the people of backward castes, the fight is for the future of the country.
udit people like u, can really mattera lot, schools and colleges all over delhi,
and for nri ill say that, email support can do a lot i guess
to support us you have to join the rallies and get people with you.....
for those who say only indian doctors go on strike...
BERLIN (Reuters) - More than 12,000 doctors across Germany went on strike on Monday in the biggest walkout in the sector since a dispute over pay flared two months ago.
Hi guys,
why only medicos and IITs etc, where are the Arts and Commerce students? Does anyone know if there is a networking happening amidst these students esp in Mumbai?
M an Arts student n Would like to join in.
please post the details here.
Kudos!!
Awesome guys...hang in there you doin a fantastic job. v cant even imagine what it's like goin without food 4 80 hours!!!
Juz wanna thnk u 4 standing up 4 us n takin all the pains.
All the best.
-Krishna.
krishnamvyas@yahoo.com
please spread the word around:
1.sms people from other streams to join in.
2. let ppl comment on all ur blogs. take some selected comments and try to get them media attention
3. i am sure some student would have photographs of the protest and the resulting police action. attach them into an e-mail and start forwarding the e-mail to everyone you know. forwarded messages spread like wild fire
As Pranam co-travelers, members of the Pranam foundation we extend our support to the cause against reservations of the SC/ST and OBC and are willing to fight against this injustice. Firstly towards the students falling under the general category and secondly , the division of India on the basis of caste and creed. The Pranam foundation believes in the unity of our motherland BHARAT and awakening its true potential-political, economic, cultural heritage and spiritual by spreading truth, love and light (cutting ignorance). Pranam is training, mobilizing and activating the youth to realize its potential and cut falsehood. Our religion is humanity – MANAV DHARAM. The reservations act as a barrier on the path of unity of our nation. India can be supreme land only if true and genuine caliber is enhanced in all spheres. Our members are a part of this movement and with our spiritual force we extend our support to this movement on all levels starting from the basic physical level to the highest level of spirituality. Please let us know if in any other way we can contribute to this cause. Thank you. Pranam.
hey all,
its just amazing as to how everyones supporting this anti reservation protests .but the main issue is still hanging there is arnd 80%of OBC and the govt the way they are behaving is so indifferent . they are not taking out solutions ..wht the hell?
but we'll keep going..
CONDEMN RESERVATION
Reservation is to be condemned in any civilized, social and cultured society. It is a threat to the sustained socio-economic development. Progress of a society could not be achieved with any kind of bias, may be any reason behind it. Merit was and would remain the only key factor of development.
The growth of socially and economically deprived section could not be achieved with this worst phenomenon of reservation. If our politicians are so much concerned about the more opportunities for weaker section, which they do not seem to, there are lots of other ways to do that, but not to be done on the cost of drainage of talent.
For sake of more opportunities, the weaker section could be provided with free education, medical facilities, curriculum material, extra coaching, healthy diet and lots of others. But in any case there shouldn’t be reservation of any kind.
More important thing is that the facilities for deprived should not be decided on the basis of caste. The criteria of patronage by state, if there be any, should be based on the social and economic standards. The beneficiaries should be always the weaker one, who the actual needy.
But in actual consequences it is seen that the these kind of plans come to be fruitful only for ones who belong to much higher class and could not only bear their burden rather leading quality life. The real needy come to be again more deprived.
Moreover according to the constitution of India, Equality is the Fundamental Right of the citizens of India and any kind of reservation is against it. According to the provision in constitution, any law passed by Parliament or any definition even in constitution itself which crosses the Fundamental Rights of citizens is to be wiped off.
Such kind of help is required at this time from the judiciary because only the Supreme Court has the right of final definition of constitution and it is the only institution left which is unaffected of vote politics (to be called dirty politics).
The youth power of India is the most strongest in the world. A lot of competition is already there due to lack of resources in the country. Even then they, with their own abilities are building India and leading it towards developed nation of 21st Century.
But these kind of vote policies of some useless politicians (name need not to mentioned), whose only aim to be in power by hook or crook, are against them.
How one could compromise with the skill of doctor’s to treat, an engineer’s ability to build, a manager’s capability to tackle and a bureaucrat’s talent to settle on the future of nation? But these power hungry traitor politicians can do.
Now the time has come we the people of India have to decide, which is to be remained the turncoats or our India. Of course we are a democratic country and the whole is to be done in very democratic manner.
Let everyone be aware about the truth. The people of India should kick such person from the top posts, who are not even an inch cared about the nation and its loyalty, with their most powerful weapon the ballet.
3rd Year Engineer
From: Patiala, Punjab.
hey guys from youth for equality i m dr jayesh in to post graduation in medicine.we did take procession in anand district of gujarat along with local indian medical association doctors..there was rally to sardar patel university and our leader handed over the memorandum of our protest and support to youth for equality to vice chancellor and from there we headed to collector s office in anand .. distributed papers for awareness in general public..guys wat next do direct us.. all people we met says" personally i feel government is wrong but as member of government neither chancellor nor collector gave any statement".. watever happen to this issue guys just stick togather .. people in india needs more than wat we doctors are already doin to get awaken .. if 100 hrs of 200 doctors hunger strike cannot awaken people of india, then i guess we have long way ahead.. my serious and sincere appeal to all academic students from school and colleges and various branches in university join togather .. u might just have common platform for equality... the battle is there to be won so guys we have to keep goin . its not goin to b easy and it might just get tougher.. and its when going gets tough, medicos gets it goin..also my appeal to indian association of doctors wat are they waiting for to take thier descision.. if no doctors work in india for some days i guess none of tehm gonna go poor but tat might just awaken people sleepin in parliament when the quata bill was being passed.. just take a note .. this fight is not for me or u its for us .. for better future of india .........
Hi, here we r student of medical college starts one convincing team who work for making people & student of other institution aware abt all thing happening & asking them to join us in this race of merit against quota on basis of cast instead of financial basis if needed.And existing quota must be revised only on financial basis.
REGARDING THIS CONTACT ME AT:
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doctorstb1985@rediff.com
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bad_guys_1985@yahoo.com
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RESERVATION ACT - A Political Tool
“Divide and Rule
Is not that Cool”
This is one of the slogans put up by activists of “Youth for Equality” as they marched down the streets of Delhi to protest against the upcoming event of “Division by Cast ”. This event is indeed forecasted as one of the effects of the new versions of Reservation Act by many well wishers of India.
Before going into any kind discussion about the merits and demerits of this act let us have a glimpse at the political career of our present H.R.D minister Arjun Sing – the modern prophet of Dalits.
As pointed by one his colleagues Mr. M.L Fotedar “Sing’s refusal to act after the Ayodha incident has let the Narasimha Govt. off the hook”. As the report suggests it was Sing who refused to resign at that crucial moment permitting the Govt. to take an easy breather.
The Ayodha incident of 1992 had indeed raised several eyebrows about the security of minorities in India. The Govt. was at the gunpoint and busy in several face-saving activities. Many well wishers of India had opined that this should be the end of the Govt. But that was not the case to happen. And the one of the persons who helped the Govt. to secure their place is our present honorable H.R.D minister Mr. Arjun Sing.
So its is not very difficult to conclude that Arjun Sing is one of the culprits of saving the Govt. in 1992 – the Govt. that failed to give safety to millions of minority families and Dalits.
The above incident is meant to aware my Readers about the political background of our H.R.D minister. If any of my readers are thinking that Arjun Sing is the only “Thorn in flesh” ,then he is wrong ,but I certainly hope that it was the truth. Then the problem in hand would have been much easier to tackle. Unfortunately this thought is far away from the reality. Arjun Sing is only the engine of a long train that consists of several bogies called cabinet ministers.
It is surprisingly true that the “COMMON MINIMUM PROGRAMME” of the U.P.A. does discuss codifying all reservations and enacting a reservation act. It also speaks of being very sensitive to the issue of affirmative action, including reservation in the private sector.
The major matter of concern is that even after fifty-nine years of independence the country’s two largest parties are controlled by upper caste Satraps. Four out of six general secretaries of B.J.P are Brahmins while four out of eight in the Congress are upper-class politician. The Congress actually wants to consolidate its position in over 200 parliamentary seats by wooing back the Dalits and perhaps, get a share of the O.B.C’s too. There is certain game plan that is undeniable. The National Rural Employment Guarantee Bill, the Forests Land for Tribal Bill, the newly mooted quota in Central Universities and now the proposition of jobs in private sector are all aimed at inclusive growth – not of India but of Congress Party.
Whatever I have mentioned up-to this point may be a matter of concern or irritation depending on which side of the line you are standing. But one can hardly forget the time period of 1980-1993. Let me ease your thought, just take a look at the following details-
• 1980: A commission under B.P.Mandal submits report on reservation for O.B.C’s to home minister.
• 1989: V.P.Sing the then Prime minister accepts the report.
• 1989-90: Anti Mandal protests engulf India
• 1992: Supreme Court finally clears all legal hurdles to its implementation.
• 1993: Mandal Recommendation extended to all central jobs.
So whichever side of the line you are standing you must always agree that playing the “quota” card has always been a genetical problem of Indian politics. So Indian National Congress cannot be blamed alone if you wish to do so.
Mandal part II has been welcomed with protests and student’s revolt all across the country. One of the major reasons for that - there is a general feeling that this is a politically motivated move than a social one.
Another vital reason for the protest is that the bill is a major discomfort to the Non-Quota students. Although no concrete figures are present on O.B.C’s share in the I.I.T’s, I.I.M’s and 20 Central universities, at present it is calculated by the academics to be around 20%. Remarkable! These O.B.C students qualify without any quota. But the Govt. says:
Yeh Dil Mange more !!!!!
Anyway let’s consider the situation after the reservation act is implemented. After the reservation of 27% for them the O.B.C representative will go up to 47%. With another 22.5% reserved for S.C’s and S.T’s applicants. So the final figure tells that there will be 69.5% reservation in I.I.T’s, I.I.M’s and 20 Central universities for Dalits and other deprived categories. It is not hard to imagine from the above discussions what will be the situation of the General Category students. And India, a secular, sovereign, democratic, republic country will top the list of victims.
The medical colleges of different states are not even spared from this decision or indecision as some may call. Getting a future forecast the students all over the country have lodged their protest against this politically motivated Govt. bill which is yet to be implemented.
Gone are the days of “forgive and forget” students have even pledged not to vote for Congress and U.P.A in the upcoming elections.
Their movement got a boost up as Science and Technology Minister Mr. Kapil Sibal said that “Govt. must not initiate any measure that could dilute India’s ability to compete in global economy”.
An eminent figure of I.N.C and member of Gandhi parivar has also made his comment “It’s a very Complex issue and both sides have valid points”- Rahul Gandhi.
Many of my quota friends may be tempted to think that although the future of general candidates is at stake, they are under the safe guard of Govt. policies. Unfortunately the above thought is not only wrong but the reality is that they are the categories whose interests are going to be hampered by worst.
Consider the proposition for job reservation in the private sectors. Assuming a population of 1.02 billion, we can guesstimate the SC/ST population around 240 million. Going by Indian demographics, the people of this group in working age will be around 120 million. Now pose this against the opportunity that the proposed quota will create. F.I.C.C.I Secretary General Mr. Amit Mitra points out that of the 400 million jobs in the country only 7% or 28 million are in organized sector. Of this around 19 millions jobs are in Govt. and public sector, where reservations are already in force. This means that the universe for application of quota is limited to around nine million.
Economist and PHDCCI Secretary General Bibek Debroy points out “Even if reservations were to be implemented instantaneously, it would only create around two million job opportunities for the quota applicants”.
As already mentioned number of Dalits in working age is 120 million, 9 millions already employed leaving 111 million. So 2 million of 111 million or 1.08% will be benefited leaving behind 109 million still in tears.
How’s that!!
• 110 number of sitting O.B.C M.P’s in both houses of parliament.
• 12 number of sitting O.B.C chief minister in the country.
As a citizen of India I have every right to ask the Govt. how the above mentioned have contributed to the development of Dalits and minorities.
As a Lilliput politician I will help my readers understand the present situation of Dalits and minorities in India. Please take a look at the given figures.
• Barely four out of ten Dalits are literate.
• Eight out of ten Dalits drop out of school before class X.
• Seven out of ten are illiterate among S.T.
• Over 80% of reserved seats at industrial training are vacant and there are no takers.
Smile please!!! Because here is more to follow…
• 37.82% of literacy among S.C.
• 79.88% of high schools drop out rate among S.C.
• 1, 00,000 Govt. jobs under quota vacant across the country.
• 6% class I central Govt. jobs held by S.C’s and S.T’s.
This is a never ending list so I have only pointed out a few. I am not trying to criticize the O.B.C ministers but I am trying to find the answer to the following question.
What is the guarantee that 2+9=11 millions of employed Dalits will help another 109 million to gain their position in the society?
Going a step ahead one can also query what is the guarantee that a small percentage of these Dalits will not create, a so called “Upper class Dalits” getting advantage of quota and start ruling their own people. Then in future India is going to witness another riot. This time between the Dalits who were deprived of quota and Dalits who were benefited by quota.
This possibility may appear rare to somebody because the number of Dalits who were deprived of quota will always outnumber the other category as per the present Govt. plan.
That was all about reservation for jobs in private sector.
Now let us consider another controversial decision of implementing more quotas in Govt. Institutions.
As I have already pointed out the literacy rate, percentage of dropouts at the primary level and number of vacant quota seats among the Dalits and the deprived categories, the decision of implementing more quotas in Govt. Institutes is highly questionable. The real thing is that getting admission to premier institutions of India and to complete the course needs a basic educational background. Unfortunately most of the quota students lack that.
The proof is that 50% seats reserved for the S.C’s and S.T’s remains still vacant. The other 50% who takes advantage of the system and gets admitted has to swallow the bitter pill. Often they perform miserably in the academic front, many drop out or are thrown out. Many took longer than usual to complete their courses. Many more have been on probation for poor performance.
This is more a fact than a fiction and evident from the comment of Dr. Shobna Sonpur, a clinical psychologists, counselor at IIT Delhi (1987-2000) – “It’s an unrelenting struggle; Just to keep their heads above water.” She said.
“The issue is not simply entering these hallowed portals of learning”, points out 25 year old Arunabha Patro of IIM-C. “It’s what happens after that matter”, adds the student from Orissa, “Is the course restructured? Or the level of competency lowered just to accommodate the quota students”?
Actually the pro-reservationalists have never bothered to look into some crucial fact:
1. How many quota students actually get their degree?
2. What sort of Rank do they secure in an academic year?
The major problems that the quota students face after they are pushed into these institutions are:
1. The quota tag deflates their confidence to the ground.
2. The language of instruction (English).
3. Globalised environment – very different from their home towns and villages.
4. Poor level of primary and secondary education makes the competency level much higher.
5. Inability to approach teachers because of inhibiting anxieties.
An old proverb says “Regulations makes a rule and exceptions prove it.”
Yes, there are exceptions like Sharad Babu an Entrepreneur and former student of B.I.T – Pillani and IIM-A. A boy who learnt his first alphabets under the gloomy street lamps. He now owns his own catering company and dreams of opening a ‘desi’ food store chain someday. Even he has admitted that reservation should be a social tool not a political.
As definite statistics are not available about the success and failure rates of the quota students nobody on either side of the line cannot have the last the last laugh. But all of them have agreed at one point that life of the quota students at the premier institutes is not like bed of Roses.
The truth lies in the fact that basic elementary primary and secondary education cannot be replaced with a shortcut solution like quota in premier institutions.
From all the above mentioned facts only one conclusion can be drawn and that is the action plan taken by the Govt. will melt only the tip of the iceberg leaving the rest intact.
The major matter of concern is that there is an underlying thought that the Govt. actually wash off their hands in terms of developing millions of deprived families of India.
Whenever the issues like “Development and Welfare of Dalits and minorities” will be raised later they will start reciting their old poem of “Reservation Act”.
Thus the deprived will never get justice, their situation will hardly improve and their agony will be stuffed in the cold storage of Govt. policies.
This certainly justifies my previous conclusion that “Quotas will increase the problems of Dalits and minorities”.
Whether U.P.A can come up will certainly depend on the chemistry of their campaign and understanding of the people. Even they are in a dilemma of implementing this act.
Perhaps the Govt. needs an expert botanist to tell them that it’s useless to water the leaves and branches of a tree unless you can provide it with a good fertile soil and then water its root.
The above statements of mine can be better explained from the words of Mr. Azim H. Premji- the chairmen of Wipro Ltd.
“Attack the root of INEQUITY”-he said.
He also said that “We need to fight this issue at several levels simultaneously-and simplistic solutions like reservation in employment will not suffice. They may go some way in addressing a small minority of those affected but will leave the majority untouched. They may in fact, lead to cascading complications, and the negative impact of which will outweigh the benefits”.
He has himself come up with a few suggestions that are given below:
• Review the definition of “Underprivileged”: Criteria such as mere birth in a designated caste need to be de-prioritised to consider the facts that like historical aspects, socio-economic status and opportunities to participate in the nation’s growth.
• Provide stronger incentives at the elementary and secondary level- every child from under-served communities should be drawn into the mainstream educational process to level the playing field.
• Catalyze a revolution in micro-entrepreneur-ship and self-employment: For this we need to focus on vocational training, appropriate financing, insurance and accessible technology.
• Achieve transformation in the socio-cultural practices followed by elected bodies – every municipal corporation or panchayat must be mandated to eradicate discrimination at its level.
• Re-orient the education system to address the issues of inequity at all levels. Teachers and the entire system have to be sensitized to any kind of discriminatory treatment based on caste class or gender.
Although he believes that he is not an expert on such issues his suggestions sounds sensible to many sensitive ears.
If Mr. Premji can find time to think reasonable solutions being the chairmen of Wipro and one of the busiest persons in India why not our celebrated political leaders. After all they are elected to do so and common people have to pay tax to pet them.
“If there is a will there is a way”- why don’t our foreign minister consults with China, Singapore or U.S.A and follow there footsteps in this regard. Actually the proverb is reverted in their case. They hardly have time for constructive thinking after they finishes counting of ballots.
Take the example of Communist Party of West Bengal.
According to them if ‘E’ is the probability for existence of U.P.A Govt. and ‘C’ is the probability of implementing the Common Minimum Program then
E α C
They are in favor of reservation but with some modifications. CPM wants the Govt. to draw a line between the needy and the creamy layer among the OBC’s, before implementing quotas. They have also demanded reservation for economically weaker sections of upper castes. The above mentioned suggestions sounds somewhat sensible in the sense that it will at least prevent the creamy layers of O.B.C’s become more creamy.
Their statements show signs of contradiction. If reservation can be done in the upper caste on basis of economic conditions why this same formula cannot be extended for everybody. CPM views reservation as a limited step to provide opportunities for the backward classes. Thus it can be concluded that even after 59 years CPM is satisfied if the problems of backward classes and other deprived classes can be solved partially (Since they support this reservation act). Actually their intention is right but not the direction and they are helpless in the sense that they don’t want to loose the Dalits vote while making a sensible move. It is very easy to comment from the above discussions that they also suffer from the same old genetic problem of Indian Politics that I have mentioned earlier.
Their party affiliated newspaper ‘Ganasakti’ hardly covers any news about this student revolution. Although there common slogan is “Long live revolution”.
Take another example of our honorable railway minister Mr. Lalu Prasad Yadav. Speaking to the media at a railway zonal manager’s conference, Lalu said: “I have no objection if there is 5 to 10 % reservation for the children of upper-caste, especially those who are economically weaker among them”.
He is even ready for an amendment in the constitution in this regard.
What a person and what a solution?
Another Solution that the Govt. is planning is to increase the number of seats in I.I.M’s and I.I.T’s. This is for the information of my readers - the latest news on “The Times of India” says I.I.T’s and I.I.M’s faces a faculty crunch. Not only that many even faces problems like inadequate hostel facilities.
So it can be easily concluded that our Govt. is heading towards another politically motivated move which totally unjustified in logical sense.
If the motive behind a social job is political it will definitely lack some proper planning which is very visible in this case.
The simple question of whether somebody should be in favor or against of the present Reservation Act cannot be answered in a single word. So I leave the judgment to my fellow readers.
Throughout this whole article my intention was to aware my fellow readers about the present situation of Dalits and underprivileged class of Indian citizen. So that they could assess what our celebrated leaders has done for them for the past fifty nine years or so. I have also tried my best to analyze how much those quotas are beneficial for the persons concerned.
I feel I have supplied enough statistics and Data to prove that this move of the Govt. is a mere politically motivated move so the heading of this article is fully justified.
I want to end with a dream that in the coming fifty years reservation will be implemented as a social tool and also with some modifications so that it reaches out to the people who are actually deprived for 59 years. It will be done in such a manner that all the corners of the society get benefited. Then at about 2056 there will be no need for reservation and there will be no need for such protests. The term underprivileged will get extinct from India. Only then we can stop our fellow political leaders playing with the Quota cards and playing with our lives.
-Long Live democracy
for any queries contact –
Ramit Sengupta(919434434563)
(someone who is deeply concerned about this quota system and wants to do something for the protesting students,if you want to do your bit,forward this to everyone you know)
We dont want a government
BJP divides us on Minority Basis and Congress on Caste...
Respected All,
Let me congratulate you all for winning the first round from these social leeches, (our present politicians)
Now time has come to prepare for the second round.
This time you all are going to be hit harder.
Prepare your self for
Phase one:
They are going to put a Split in your system
What I fail to understand is that, you people are being referred as anti-reservationists, and people have started working on pro and anti basis.
Please call yourself people for equality.
As I understand you are agitating for equality.
What you want is that equal caliber people compete.
To put it more clearly let me put a small example.
A person is suffering from Polio.
What do you do.
Curse the place from where he has come.
Curse his parents, caste creed, nationality, origin etc
No, you give him medicine, and other treatments.
So that he can walk or if possible run again.
You don’t send him on competitive racing
On the competition you send people of same caliber.
People who are equals.
So when it is competition we want equal persons.
Otherwise let it be first come first served, or any such system why competetion.
Phase 2.
Stop the Press to cover your agitation.
(This I shall elaborate on my next Comment.)
Thanks
NO RESERVATION AT ALL,
WE ALL ARE WITH YOU.
BEST OF LUCK.
check http://shuru.blogspot.com/
Respected All,
As I had said earlier the political Leeches have started their phase 1, which is by creating a split, and would start the second phase 2, of stopping the press to cover your agitation.
As for the splitting is considered.
You can easily see their working on the University level,
They have taken over the whole system.
Today when all the students are with you their leaders are waiting instruction from their bosses. Like Arjun Singh.
Under closed doors they must have given their consent to you all, but outside and on the actual working they are waiting instructions from their bosses, who control them in every way. (Don’t expect them to come to you for any support, any work which you will assign them, they will ensure that you fail, inside all those who have come to you have a hidden agenda of Splitting you.)
Soon you all will find that anger is setting in your discussions. This is the start of the spitting.
In part one they labeled you
Pro and Anti,
While you said you were on equality.
The word equality was drowned.
Remember the past Mandal Days.
The agitation started from AIIMS at that time too.
Went to every part of India.
India stopped for more than a week.
Parents with their children were on the roads.
The Media was not this active at that time.
Still the agitation traveled to every nook and corner.
The whole agitation was killed by the politicians.
This time the whole media was with you all.
Your voice was reaching every home all over the world, every hour,
But still the agitation could not even travel to other student leaders,
Know WHY.
The politicians had learnt a lesson then.
They have now put a split in place.
The Student leaders are under their thumbs.
They have either bribed, bullied or blackmailed them to submission.
If they have plan A in place with the Split.
You turn to your Plan A too.
Fight the Split.
More I shall elaborate on my next Comment.)
Thanks
Here is what i propose. I want to break india in caste specific nations based on their population percentage. Let OBCs have their own country, SC/STs their own, brahmins their own and khsatriyas and vaishyas their own. That way, every community can progress in it's unique nation. The national resources can be divided in percentages equal to their population percentages. People should be moved to their respective caste countries (after providing compensation for their current assets).
ANTI RESERVATION RALLY
on 20th may 2006.
everyone is requested to gather at maulana azad medical college at 8 am sharp.the rally will leave at 9 am.
please come in large numbers.and make your voices heard.
hi im bijun from jipmer
do contact us as we too are moving in for a consensus before we strike or do anything likewise....
i caught this site on the fly
so i don have the phone numbers of our prezident or secretary
do mail me at bijunsai@gmail.com
or bijunsai@yahoo.com
or scrap at http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=1451351454482415991
Respected all,
As I had said earlier about the split, let me add here that you require a plan to fight the split too.
Action ONE
Stop closed door meeting with the politicians.
Ask them to come to your place of agitation.
If they ask you to come to them, do not close the door.
Tell them you have nothing to hide,
Ask them why they want close door meetings.
Beat them on their turf.
Call the Press too at that time.
Record all they say on your Handy cams,
Even when the press is there and they are recording.
Press will only show what they want them to show.
Action TWO
Stop the Hunger Strike.
Wars are not won on empty stomach.
A person with an empty stomach is weak.
Weak Body Weak Mind.
You are more prone to mistakes when
Your mind or bodies are weak.
They want you in one of these situations.
Don’t fall for them.
More I shall elaborate on my next Comment.)
Thanks
It's really time for some change big time. It really upto the general public to do something drastic to stop this so called neta/gunda/jungle raj.
Atlas says: Most of them think:Why the hell should I get into this. I already have a good job, a good life.
I do not think that is the case. We are watching the conditions very very carefully. We might not get enough time to join a rally, but that does not mean we will not. We are just worried if you guys will not leave this thing just in the middle. Hang on and you will find many people joining.
even opposition is quiete . are these people just not bothered about doctors.. is it time where we have to seriously think of makin some unity and abolish these politician sittin in parliament and who do nothin other than playin their dirty politics.. just have a thought way ahead still but one cannot deny youth of equality to be the next ruling government . y wont people vote for justice. its far off but not something one shuld not think off..
hey i am frm mr medical college gulbarga...we cant make it to march but are carrying out a rally ourselves with arnd a thousand ppl...wish us and u all a success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1youth for equality!!!
even opposition is quiete . are these people just not bothered about doctors.. is it time where we have to seriously think of makin some unity and abolish these politician sittin in parliament and who do nothin other than playin their dirty politics.. just have a thought way ahead still but one cannot deny youth of equality to be the next ruling government . y wont people vote for justice. its far off but not something one shuld not think off..
I say NO to RESERVATIONS and QUOTAS !
I join the Anti Reservation, Anti Quota Movement,
as a free Indian
as a Dental Surgeon
as an Orthodontist
The Anti Reservation/Quota Movement is being portrayed as a Doctor's Agitation. This is NOT so but the Medical Fraternity is to be congratulated for taking up this very important and a very sensitive issue to voice their protests and their concerns, even at the cost of braving police atrocities. One has only to recollect the graphic TV images. (In fact one of the agitating Doctors had a placard which read ' worst day since Jallianwala Baug'.)
This issue, if not addresed in the right perspective threatens to destroy our social fabric anew.
This protest should have actually sprung from each and every responsible Indian, from all walks of life, especially the Professionals and the Intellectuals. That it has unfortunately NOT happened so far is perhaps an indication of an extreme apathy and resignation.
This ploy of popping up increased Reservations and Quotas needs to be seen in the right perspective and that is, it is nothing but a wonderful gimmik of the politicians to generate and sustain VOTE BANKS through appeasement.
And let us not forget that these are the same politicians who get together, for example, to stay the sealing of unauthorized business premises by the New Delhi Muncipality, in the Capital or the legalising of the unauthorized structures in UlhasNagar, Maharashtra; fearing alienation of powerful pressure groups and lose out politically.
Historically speaking, (and I assume ) Reservations were proposed for a limited period, to integrate a certain class of society, which suffered oppression and suppression because of the castes and the communities that they were born in, into the mainstream of the social fabric and ensure emancipation and growth in a free atmosphere, sans the barriers of caste and community.
We all know that time span is already over but the Reservations still continue. No political party is willing to commit a political harakiri by opposing them. In fact and ironically enough, they are going out of their way to increase them from the present levels - ostensibly to ensure the upliftment of these castes and communities and a release from the oppression and suppression that they suffered years ago.
I join the Anti Reservation, Anti Quota Movement because I believe,
that this can only increase Casteism,
create walls between Castes and Communities,
create Animosity and Hatred,
create another Oppressed Class of highly educated people,
create barriers in the pursuit of excellence and merit
be a deterrant in the formation of a Strong and United India,
and
strengthen the hand of those who are politically manouvreing the masses for their ulterior motives.
(Of course all this should be abhorred at all times and especially at the highest professional levels.)
While no rational, reasonable individual will ever want another human being to suffer oppression and suppression on the basis of his birth and wish that every individual is able to achieve his optimal growth with equal opportunities, surely the past 55 + years have shown that Reservations and Quotas is Not the way !
The following can be looked at as long term solutions,
* consider better education opportunities and aid at grass root levels. ( school and college )
this will ensure that benefit will start early and is available to all, not just the 'upper crust' members of the backward communities and castes.
* consider loation or the area background, eg a village, small town or a city.
available opportunities will drastically and dramatically alter with the location advantage.
* consider economic backwardness.
* consider gender
* a certain number of seats, in addition to the total number of seats available ( No Reservations, No Quotas ) to be made available to meritorious students, irrespective of their birth background.
In fact, the abovementioned criteria, perhaps amongst many more, should be applicable to all individuals irrespective of their birth background who apply in that category.
If one asks an individual who has benefited from such reservations in his education and career and if he has enough honesty as well as guts, he is sure to agree that he has got what in reality should have been rightfully some one else's prerogative.
* A person who has enjoyed the benefits of Resevations and Quotas, will NEVER want it to be taken off and will continue to play his Caste Card every time he senses an opportunity to edge out a more deserving candidate.
He will want them for his children as well as grandchildren and all his future generations.( economic status notwithstanding )
on the other hand,
* An individual who has been marginalised and denied an opportunity in education and/or career, because of Reservations and Quotas, will therefore be turned spitefully Casteist !
This marginalised individual who has lost such an opportunity because of Reservations, is in reality a very capable individual, whose only 'crime' is that he is born into an Upper Caste family !
Ironically enough, Resevations were meant to eliminate such a Caste based lack of opportunity and create social equality.
We are in effect creating another class of oppressed and suppressed young individuals, a whole lot of them, in reality.
And this is the irony of Reservations and Quotas and Our Times !
Thus, eitherway Reservations and Quotas are NO WIN in totality !
Mind you, I am not talking about Merit at all.
Merit is NOT the prerogative of any Caste or a Community.
It is merely the combined outcome of basic innate ability and the opportunities made available.
To conclude,
I say NO to Reservations, I say NO to Quotas,
in education and in jobs
as a free Indian
as a Dental Surgeon
As an Orthodontist
AND
I say yes to building a better, stronger and united India.
I urge you to do the same !
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How do we show our solidarity with this movement ?
How do we get together ?
How do we get our voice heard ?
Pl. suggest ways and means of registering protest.
eg
Do we stop whatever that we are doing and at 9.00 AM on a given day, honk or ring a bell or loudly say NO ?
across Mumbai, across New Delhi, across India
till our collective voice is heard ?
Please pass this to as many people as you can.
@OBCvoice
I have read the comment of INDIANSCHOOLSTUDENTS on your latest post which shows the numbers and other data.
Reading that,its so very clear,that reservations are hardly going to help in the present scenario,we need something more practical.
YOU:it's like asking 'are all africans capable of running 100m in 11 seconds?'
hmm...if the africans are not capable of this,the they dont deserve to win or even participate in this 11second-100m race.OBviously we cant reserve 1st and second positions for those who were left behind in the race?WE rather would make sure next time they practice harder and try their level best to make it to the 1st position.
by the way,im surprised you gave the instance of a race,hope you know it requires pure healthy competition irrespective of caste.
or are you planning to demand reservations for OBCs in such sport competitions also?Your example is a bit irrelevant to justify your statement as it rather althemore strngthens mine...coz here i ask you your very own question "are all africans capable of running 100m in 11 seconds?"
YOU:is that how you understood my posts? looks like you haven't read any of them.. but came running here to spew meaningless venom on us..just because it says 'obcvoice'
Had i not read all your posts i wouldnt have posed the question at the first place.Your intentions are definitely for the welfare of the OBCs but its so downright preposterous to pull down the talented and the already capable,in oreder to make the OBCs capable.Our competition is not between lower and upper castes but its on an international basis...our INdian doctors engineers etc have the competition with the world doctors and at such a crucial turn in the development we are heading for a step backward?
You say:" but came running here to spew meaningless venom on us..just because it says 'obcvoice'"
you talk of venom?
is that how you understood my posts,my comments my sentimentality...and me? looks like you haven't read any of me..or your narrow mindedness is utterly incapable of comprehending my gentle and open outlook towards life...towards my fellow Indians...(OBCs).
And about venom i would say,if your demand for 27% reservations gets implemented,you will really know what venom is...less patient people will begin to make fun of the OBCs,they will completely lose their respect in the society becoz they have tresspassed on someone else's rights.An OBC student will be looked down upon for his quota,they will be mocked at...A life of educational prosperity but social misery is what follows the venomous snake of reservations for the OBCs.
finally,
YOU:ms..it's you and your partners here who seem stressed out on the question of reservations..not me..
yeah..i am really stressed out.stressed out to see the lathi charges on the peacefully protesting medical students,stressed out to see them on hunger strike for a week now...stressed out to see the future of my India dismal...stressed out to see that OBCs need crutches of reservations to get into a professional college...they need reservations for post graduations...and then for jobs...stressed out as now there will be brain drain and brightest of the minds will leave the country...yeah im really stressed out.
BUt its surprising as well as poignant to see you arent.NOw i understand why my comments are 'WITHOUT SUBSTANCE' for you...
EMOTIONS are without substance for you.
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/may/19quota1.htm
As a result of the government's efforts to solve the quota crisis, striking medicos on Friday demanded an assurance from the government that it will not implement the proposed Other Backward Classes quota till the number of seats in educational institutions are increased with proper infrastructure.
What is this? Are you people on a backfoot? Are you trying to compromise?
Hi Guys,
Awesome.You are doing a great job.Stick to your demand of a total rollback of the quota proposals.Please do not give up your struggle in the promise of increased seats in Educational Institutions.That will be like legitimising the quota scheme.I don't want my country turn into another Zimbabwe
QUOTA is dark cloud over our country.And its about to divide our country. So not only doctors or students but working people,parents all should join this sangram.so come people in mass and help doctors to finish QUOTA with there root.
jai Hind,
Doctor Bhai mat Ghabrana
tumhare pichhe sare Jamana
Leaders like arjun singh are creating differences in we indians on the name of caste and creed.
According to me we are indians we are not obc,sc,st or general.
OBC's are not inferior nor they are physically disabled any way, so why is there quota system.
This is just the dirty politics nothing else.
Apart from protesting on the streets we should create more awareness about this problem in the global media and make the wider world audience aware of the sinister motives of the Indian government.I think we have a great tool by the way of Internet which was not available to us during Mandal(1).We should make effective use of this medium to make our voice heard to the wider world audience.We should not give into promises of increased seats.
I am happy to note that People like Narayanamurthy saying that IIM(A) would not accept proposals to increase seats.
60 Students from Baroda Medical College have left to join you in your protest in Delhi on 20th may. Please Contact Ankur Kapoor 9426322565
@aragon
amen! dude u stole my words. BTW engineers arent passive observers. here in nasik, we actively took part in the protests and our role was covered by zee news.
@all
i want to again reinforce what aragon said. ORGANISE.. we need to know who is the 'organiser' of events, who is the head.. the coterie who takes decisions. we need to have access to these ppl. the organisation @ nasik's demonstration could have been a lot more better, if it was organised b4 hand with proper info dessimination.
So, the first thing to do is to start a webpage (not a blog)..where besides the news and contacts, there would be live rss feeds to other satellite sites. chat applets, facility to disseminate info sms's to representives around india. (my bills gone through roof after smsin to few hundred ppl in last 2-3 days :D)
BTW be assured, in the 2nd week of june, when our exams get over.. the whole of engineering comm. will rise and take this protest with such momentum that it hasnt seen yet.
we need to have constant communication between various quarters of students around india.. ASAP.. this should be done on mission mode..
without proper info dissemination, it wont take long for the passion to fizzle out..
to ignite minds and to keep the momentum, info dissemination is of prime importance.
Hail Student Power!
rock delhi with the power of youth.
BTW, there's one request.. plz take videos from various vantages, and upload them.. so that we could use them to spread some propoganda to rouse passions.
Fresh lathi charge in PunE!!!
Arjun Minority Singh (may his tribe decrease)
Awoke one night from a dream of minority appease
And saw in the fading light of his political doom
A 27% reservation could make his dying career bloom
A move resented by wise men young and old
But corrupt political support had made Mr. Singh bold
“What doest thou?” all shocked students said
Arjun Minority Singh shamefully nodded his head
With a look complete with political distort
He said “ To whatever ways you retort
The Parliament has given this bill a go”
But the students refused, “ It can’t be so,
Another Mandal we would never allow
We’ll stop your evil designs, let us show you how
No students, No engineers, No Doctors saving lives
Let us see how long this government survives
We wonder why don’t you politicians yield
To a 50% reservation in the political field
And when all the politicians also faced the reservation test
lo! Arjun Singh too was left out with the rest !!
Amen…
( A take off from the famous poem – Abou Ben Adhem)
May the Force be with you...
yes there is a problem but reservation is not a solution........
THOSE PRO RESERVATION IN PATNA PROTESTORS WERE NOT STUDENTS.......AND NOT AT ALL MEDICAL STUDENTS..!!!
THEY WERE JUST WEARING WHITE COATS AND TRYING TO DIVIDE THE PROTESTORS.........
THEY WERE POLITICAL WORKERS BELONGING TO RJD AND OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES.
THIS IS A SEIOUS MATTER AND CLEAR INDICATION THAT RESERVATIONS ARE DUE ONLY POLITICS AND NOT AT ALL FOR ANYONE'S UPLIFTMENT..........!
hello all,
we all need to first of all congratulate the parliament for their first unanimous decision...so what if it is to destroy the nation...i beleieve that reservation based on caste should be abolished completely and the government should step forward to help people from the economically weaker section of our society. even to this day socially backward people in rural areas don't have the facilty to drink water...the governemnt should bridge the divide thier and not think of benefiting thier own kids...its a rumour and i am not sure of this but i have heard that arjun singh is doing this because he was not given importance by his cabinet and also that it is possible that his son is trying for chief ministership in Madhya Pradesh which has a huge number of OBC people...i think the governement should work more on passing the nuke deal in the senate which is important for our country and not think of ways to divide the country...STOP STATE SPONSORED CASTEISM
you all r brave heart.carry on the protest.the holidays in schools and universities have deterred students to organise a mass protest.but still it is simmering and will take the form of wild fire.in tienenman square in china in 1988 over 4 lacs students protested against the government and demanded democracy in china.the did not call off the protest but they were brutally suppressed by imposing martial law.draw some inspiration and protest for months.even if the bill is passed dont worry, just compound the protest.i am a d.u student .i am trying to aware people everyday aboout this protest.after independence there is something woth to fight for.i will support u till the last drop of blood flows into my vein. i will also organise mass rally as soon as colleges and schools get open.inquilab zindabad!
its talib again .i am a du student.if ican help in spreading the flames of protest then please contact me on my cell.no. is 9891779220
I reserve a participation in this revolution....
Email your MP's and tell them that you wont vote for them if quotas are instituted. It's time to divide the polity.
All the NRI apart from stagin a small protest in ur country.Also you can email to the embassy in your countries.Though they won't care for it much.But keep sendin then i say send so many that their server goes down
20th May,morning.
We are organising a protest outside the Dashmesh Institute of Research and Dental sciences,Faridkot.Govt Medical College,Faridkot will also join.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION...
JAI HIND
INQUILAAAAAAAAAB
ZINDABAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!
Lines from Dinkar's RashmiRathi, ( with minor variation)
De Khud Ko De ABHAYA DAAN, Arjun,Arjun Ho Savadhaan..
Tu Nahi Hosh Me Aayega,
Kuch Bhee Na Shesh Rahjayega
The complete idiots' guide on evil of reservations in India
01 It has not benefited the target population but has created a privileged class in reserved sections who generation after generation have cornered all the benefits. So in effect poor and needy from reserved categories are denied access to education and jobs by children of rich and prosperous government servants who due to accident of birth are born to parents who are well to do and backwards.
02 Just as a person from OBC/SC/ST pays his income tax depending on his income and not on his caste or the fact that he comes from the oppressed section of the society, his entry into professional colleges/defense forces should depend upon his merit and any reservation, if provided, should recognize the importance of economic status also. Just as nobody minds a poor person paying less tax both in terms of absolute amount and in terms of percent of whole income, similarly reservation on basis of economic criteria will be accepted by the country as a whole because general castes people will not get a feeling of reverse discrimination while really needy people in reserved classes will benefit from weeding out of parasitic creamy layer.
03 For record OBC stands for other backward classes and not castes. Hence by definition it has no place for any creamy layer/caste consideration.
04 The aim of founding fathers of our constitution was to have a society where caste and religion of a person becomes immaterial. By implementing caste-based reservations government will accentuate caste fault lines in the society.
05 By having caste based reservations government will be forced to hold a caste census(which was done away in 1932 to develop a pan Indian identity and kill the monster of caste) and from there, the demand for proportional representation in higher education, jobs, promotions, judiciary, cricket teams and defence services irrespective of merit is not far of.
06 The track record of government in upliftment of SC/ST is so poor that to camouflage it any government in power, in name of welfare, increases the reservation by 10 yrs and now they have been accepted as a permanent feature in this country and not a temporary measure of 10 years that framers of our constitution thought. So people fear that 27% OBC reservation will also permanently shrink the already small pie.
07 Parliament, state legislative bodies and other law making bodies are not always right and has time and again have changed laws cynically to suit their convenience e.g. office of profit, Ulhasnagar and Delhi demolition drive. During Shah Bano case parliament has already overruled supreme courts decision. Hence if some Johnny came lately comes up with a bill to have 37% reservations then Arjun Singh stock and barrel will be forced to support him to save their seats. So if government is sincere in its effort to bring reservations, it should reserve seats in all legislative bodies for women and OBCs.
08 The days of idealism in politics are truly over. Otherwise how come in a parliament of 545 in Lok sabha and more in Rajya sabha not a single member of any party has the guts to stand up and say what is right, true and just. This type of rarest of rare unity and understanding and consensus across the political spectrum was not seen even at height of Indo China war in 1962.The fact that left, right, congress and every party irrespective of their strength and ideology supports reservation should not be taken as what the country wants or needs. In eyes of all educated people and youth this is a crude election gimmick where government has come up with an unbeatable caste combination (much like MY of Lalu in Bihar which kept him in power for 15 years) and for any party to oppose it, is like committing political suicide. The best part of the entire issue is that unlike Dalit and Adivasi movements there has been no effort or demand on the issue from the caste concerned before honorable Arjun Singh exploded the time bomb on the nation. So unless the government brings a fact-finding/judicial investigation into benefit of reservation its utility and governments’ intentions will be in doubt.
09 By implementing reservation based on caste now we are going back in time and following reverse discrimination and making the caste of a person the deciding factor of his life and making a persons’ nationalality/nationhood subservient to his caste. In older times a lower caste person had to face difficulties and wanted a world free of the curse of castism where every person is a Indian first and Indian last. It is indeed ironical that today SC/ST/OBC are holding on to their caste certificate as their passport to success while the so called general caste people want a caste less world
10 By implementing 27% reservation for OBC in education and private jobs government has reduced the right of a general student to a decent education and living by one fourth. This is akin to jazia tax paid by non-muslims during Aurangzebs time. If that was tyranny of the emperor/state power, this is tyranny of majority and pushing the country towards mobocracy.
SOLUTION
1. Any Indian whose father has a income of Rs 2 lakh pa should be considered ineligible for all kinds of reservation except physically handicapped reservation and even in this case it should be limited to engg/med degrees and not for specialization and superspecialisation.
hello all
tomorrow ther is a candle light march going 2 happen in mumbais shivaji park in dadar at 6.00pm
be there with 1 candle
hello all
tomorrow ther is a candle light march going 2 happen in mumbais shivaji park in dadar at 6.00pm
be there with 1 candle
we need to shw the goverment wat the youth of today can do.
hello all
tomorrow ther is a candle light march going 2 happen in mumbais shivaji park in dadar at 6.00pm
be there with 1 candle.the goverment is trying to divide us on caste basis so tat they can rule in the future. v hve 2 fight
jai hind
I only hear Medicos fighting for ant-quota , what happened to Engineers . I never heard much from premier Colleges like (IIT's , NIT's, Central Universities)
and BTW, Dr Priyanka, this Italian mafia Govt are going a step further...
Declaring Jains as religious minority and dividing a further wedge in our society..
Why has not 50% reservation Bill for women in Parliament been passed???
I fully support the strike of all the doctors.
I will request all the common people to support the stike any any form whether on street,media ,press,official work.
It is issue of principles and time has come awake india before its too late.
There politicians did not even spare there own sons and brothers so who is JANATA for them.
Only you can change them.
Its really pity that two of the best brains who are at head of affairs are doing nothing except watching from living room.
These can seed of next divide of india if not stopped right now.
IIT,IIM,CA,ALL UNIVERSITY NEED TO UNITE.
The architect of liberalisation..
Manmohan!! Manmohan!!
Could not win any election..
Manmohan!! Manmohan!!
So, they made him PM of Indian Nation..
Manmohan!! Manmohan!!
Now he is a man of no action..
Manmohan!! Manmohan!!
Cannot face the opposition..
Manmohan!! Manmohan!!
Is he scared of the woman ?..
Manmohan!! Manmohan!!
JAGO man, the fire is raging on..
Manmohan!! Manmohan!!
Unfortunately he is our best politician ..
God help this great nation
God help this great nation
Hi
Protests against reservations are utter stupidity. There are 160 million dalits who still face untouchablity in our country. Think for a moment how would you bring them to social equality? You can't give them money.. atleast give them education!
this is exactly what we are saying. Give education not false promises.
Lalu Yadav, the champion of dalits can convince them that roads only help the rich to run their cars.. bastard...How many years you give him to pull them out ??
I would like to fund if any one or group would come to assasinate Arjun Singh. Unfortunately I cannot do that since I am in a different country. you name it 100,000USD??
No need to make any extra effort to kill any politician, they will kill themselves. Arson Singh..., lady, So Near Yet so far from Gandhi... 'Maun'mohan sing..does'nt talk does'nt sing..Save the money for future Y4E project.or just take a good vacation
you are doing a great job, keep up the good work, the whole nation is looking up to you for hope.
This reservations and politicians are bane of india, carry on your fight
no reservations
To all of u
chalo delhi
Its do or die
Its now or never
join us today
RESERVATION FOR WHOM ;- There is a belief that some communities in our society were denied the previlege to progress , study , and even worship the religion due to castism.
After independence constitution provided them reservation and suport to improve their social life.Initially it was for ten years but governments from time to time increased the time limits
to gain political advantage out of it and it bacame a tool to gain vote bank. This even denied
advantage to the concerned community because some influential and previleged of the same
community took undue advantage of this reservation policy, time and again.
Now about sixty years after independence, this reservation policy needs to be reconsidered to provide the benifit to the realy needy section of the socity.
It should not be on the bases of cast, creed, religion,region only but must be on economically
based also.
The person who is income tax payee , he and his family members should be excluded from this reservation advantage
Education should be the criteria to uplift the bacward
society.Give them free education upto 10 +2 with finencial suport, Stipen of Rs.200 for tenth/eleventh
class and Rs 400 p,m, for twelveth class. This can be shared by state & central government
Merit should be the only consideration for professional/ higher education. The deserving students
may further be suported with finencial aid as well.
This will give them confidence and self respect to stand with the other communities to built a better future and a better society as a whole.
DERESERVATION FOR UPLIFTING THE DESERVING SOCIETY. Surinder Singh Chaggar A-94 South Ext II NewDelhi
Is the media totally bought out ?? There is a definite change of values in even a paper like The Hindu. Post Karunanidhi , I feel I am reading a different newspaper. Wot's going on..does anyone have any idea .
What is this 'creamy layer' nonsense they keep talking about. Cream comes from milk that is boiled on FIRE. Whwn the netas promise free Gulabjamun,s during election..don't they know it is made from the cream only ?
A lot of phrases need defined. 'creamy layer' , 'social engineering' , OBC, is it other backeard CLASS or other backward CASTE..
in the words of Shankara
Shabdajaalam mahaaranyam
Chittabhramankaaranam
The network of words is like a dense forest where the mind wanders like a wild animal..
We need to come out in light.
Hi,
would like to give a suggestion to strengthen your movement.
as i feel reservation is inevitable and to some extend needed by the economicaly deprived section of our community. why dont we urge them (class 4 employees, taxi & auto drivers, eunechs, etc) to join us, as reservation needs to be based on economic status & not on the caste. this way we can get support of a larger part of society, which will further force the govt to listen to us.
GOOD going guys we are with u ! i am a fashion design student n come forward to help u guys in any way so if u want fd students to come forward mail me on prayrna_s@yahoo.co.in
the eunuchs are sitting in the 'hallowed precincts man.
politician v/s politician
sample this
Even as Mr. Mukhi and Dr. Harsh Vardhan accused the Chief Minister of doing nothing, an irritated Ms. Dikshit got up and accused the BJP leaders of playing petty politics for selfish gains. Ms. Dikshit said she would have the matter looked into as soon as the House was adjourned but this did not satisfy the BJP. Upset at the attitude of the BJP leaders, Ms. Dikshit got up again and, pointing towards Mr. Mukhi and Mr. Chauhan, said: "We had got the demolition of Mr. Chauhan's house stalled on Wednesday and told the MCD not to proceed with the order of demolishing the illegal structures. Mr. Mukhi you had called me up twice for Mr. Chauhan's work and I had returned your call stating that the demolition had been stopped and the concerned Deputy Commissioner had been asked to postpone the action for the time being. We helped you on Wednesday and we will again want to help you with regard to Ms. Bisht's matter but this is not the right way of getting things done."
..yeah we're learning the right ways .
no frustrstion here sir, it is a joy. we are small in no. it is difficult to go door to door like politicians, more than 100 docs. have collapsed at the hunger strike. We are not against helping, service is a part of our job. Still we'll do our best to implement your suggestion.
rather than writing on this blog....
I urge u fella's to come out on the roads with atleast 4-5 friends of yours... and join the protest march...
I feel so miserable that being in UK, I cant do much..
Just read on a website that just a 1000 students r in the YFE rally in Delhi today...
Looking at the no of comments n emails I'v received in past few days, I thought it wud be a 50,000 people rally.
But dont give up, THE WAR HAS JUST BEGUN.
Get all OBC, poor people on ur side citing how creamy layer is taking away their due rights n cite economic criteria's for reservations...
THIS IS A WAR...!!!
Hello All ,
I think what we are all trying to achieve is really commendable , and kudos to those who have put in their heart and soul into it . Everyone in the country already owes you for your effort .
Allow me to present a few thoughts off the top of my head . Im aware a lot of these things might be something already thought of and even implemented , and in that case i beg ignorance !
All successful agitations have to be driven by popular protest and well thought out plans-of-action ( poa ) . You cannot do without either. and i am just echoing some thoughts on these lines :
1. We are seeing lots of protests all over the country , by different groups . All of us need to be united under one banner . This will multiply our might manifold , and also increase our support base.
2. We need to be well coordinated under this one banner. We should be in constant touch with each other across the country , coordinate our actions .
3. There needs to be coordination committees at both cities and national level . These committees can decide on course of action ,formulate demands ,carry out negotiations and lots more . They have to be the face of the agitation.
4.People should also know that there is this coordination committee , because even if there is one now it is not well known. People should know their agitation is going somewhere , even if only from our side .
5. The protest plans should be spread far and wide , so that everybody knows about them in whichever city they are , and can join in .
6. Guys , our demands are really not getting out . Not too many people know what our demands are , what we are protesting for . We need to put these out in the form of a press release ASAP. The coordination commitee can then track these demands by negotiations .
6. a) We have to show that we are not against reservations totally . Let there be reservations but implement them in such a manner that their objective is achieved , of providing equality in society .
b) We have to show this is not a protest by students , but by indians . A lt more of the sections in society have to be brought into it. We need appeals for the same . Try newspaper ads , theyre really effective .
c) Renowned people have to be brought into the protest. There is an edit in todays Hindustant Times by an ex director of NCERT in our support . We need to show more poeple like him understand what we are talking about , we need to project this big time .
7. I have spoken about coordination commitees , but let that not mean they are our leaders . Everyone in the protest has to be a leader , believe in the cause and do his best in his way .
8. We have to keep this going . If tomorrow the govt calls for negotiations , then we dont have to forget about it and leave a certain set of students to negotiate . That would be the time to keep everybody in the loop with the situation , keep everybody fired and interested . And the time to build those systems of contact is right now .
Summarizing , what we need right now is :
1. Nation wide and city level coordination committees
2. Systems for information dissemination ( emailing groups , orkut etc )
3. Urgent information to be released : set of demands , emails , contact nos of people . A newspaper AD would be a good way to go to let the people know all the stuff in one consolidated way .
I just wished to bring these points to the notice of those right there in front who can take these decisions the quickest, so that we can have a ROCK SOLID protest!
this is a protest not by students , but INDIANS...Go india!
DEAR FRIENDS
I, Rajeev chawla, am a qualified Engineer from Thapar Institute of technology, Patiala 1979-1983 batch.
I would like to extend my whole hearted support for Anti-Reservation moment.
I would like to thank Mr Shiv Khera, for his guidance and support to this deserving and long awaited unfulfilled cause.
Here , I would like to share my own experience with the parents of children and those who are now students and have a great career to carve but for this reservation.
I passed my 10 + 2 exams with 80% marks in 1979 from CBSE . I was one of the candidiate for Punjab Engineering College, Chandigarh.I was offered a minor branch and I felt disgusted and humiliated when it was announced on P.A.System that if any S.C. or B.C. Student having just 45 % marks can join Electronics branch which was the haghest ranking engineering stream available.
It is a shame that the boy who could just pass the 10+2 exams was offered electronics branch and the boy who was having 80% marks was denied the course because he was not an s.c or b.c.
I would like to call all the parents of students who are now studying in 10th, 11th or 12th should come forward and contribute to this noble cause as it concerns each and every one of US.
COME FORWARD AND JOIN THE MOMENT . THIS SHOULD BE LAST WAR AGAINST RESERVATION. SO WAKE UP AND STRIKE HARD.
PLEASE MAIL THIS TO ALL YOU KNOW AND HAVE YOUR CONTRIBUTION IN ANTI RESERVATION
RAJEEV CHAWLA
09810515137
Can we start contributing money , to give momentum and also show our solidarity.
i agree wid '4india'.
1.instead of puttin money in increasing d already broke infrastructure these idiots should put up institutes EXCLUSIVELY 4 d reserved class,n c what happens,instead of touching our shrines like IITs n AIIMS.
2.but IF this bill be passed,my friends,defy d govt. in all ways u can...could start by not PAYING UR TAXES(if u r a minor urgin ur parents nt to),cuz as it is d money goes to d undeservin politicians creamy layer,n we kp makin em rich
Do whatever is within your means......infact try and do more than what you can do.........!!!
1. MOtivate yourself to do something for the country by actually going to the grounds where anti-quota struggle is going on........am sure the condition of the students will shake your inner spirit and will bring out the nationalist within you.
2.Join the mass marches happening in different states against anti-quota........try and take as many people as possible....( your qualities as a leader will count here)if not your individual count will also make a lot of difference.
3.Distribute anti-quota brochures to common people telling them to be a part in this struggle against the system........you can draft these brochures yourself or can get a copy from the Youthforequality members.
4. Wear a black band on your arm showing that you are in support of anti-reservation.
5. Write mails to the editors of different newspapers,magazines, TV channels.
6. Participate in the various ongoing TV channels /website polls
7. Forward the SMS and mails that you recieve in favour of anti-reservation to as many people as possible.
8. Popularize this bolg (www.youthforequality.blogspot.com)by posting your comments here and telling about it to all your friends and realtives.
9. Write letters to PM and President on this issue.
10. Swear by God that what may happen you will vote in the next elections and will ensure that Congress is wiped out from our countrys political party list.
WE APPEAL ALL
Students, youth, professionals, organisations, call centres, Institutes, colleges, universities, associations, Individuals, ALL OF YOU, to join the struggle against this "DIVIDE AND RULE VOTE BANK POLITICS"
rather than writing on this blog....
I urge u fella's to come out on the roads with atleast 4-5 friends of yours... and join the protest march...
I feel so miserable that being in UK, I cant do much..
Just read on a website that just a 1000 students r in the YFE rally in Delhi today...
Looking at the no of comments n emails I'v received in past few days, I thought it wud be a 50,000 people rally.
But dont give up, THE WAR HAS JUST BEGUN.
Get all OBC, poor people on ur side citing how creamy layer is taking away their due rights n cite economic criteria's for reservations...
THIS IS A WAR...!!!
HARI BOL..BOL..BOL
HARI BOL..BOL..BOL
HARI BOL..BOL..BOL
HARI BOL..BOL..BOL
hi!!!
why does Arjun Singh not start at home....(since,charity begins at home)
1.reserve 50% seats for women in the parliament.
2.his so called compassion for obc should extend to lok sabha ,rajya sabha and legislative assemblies of the states!!
3.the benefits of reservation are being enjoyed by the CREAMY LAYER generation after generation!!!
4.only the 0.1% of the dalits ,who are actually "crorepatis",are availing the reservation and the deserving students are suffering because of this.
24.9%of sc/st and 26.9% of obcs are earning less than 2 lacs pa.
AN ECONOMIC BAR IS URGENTLY REQUIRED ON THE CURRENT SC/ST RESERVATION TO STOP THE MISUSE.
every family earning more than 2 lacs pa should be OUT OF THE CATEGORY to benefit the poorest among the poor dalits and obcs.
....................................................JAI HIND!!!
arjun singh: the ghost of
reservation
MEDICOS : THE EXORCIST
THE NEW DEFINITION OF TODAY'S UNTOUCHABLES!!!!
the 0.1% elite,millionaire so called dalits,
who travel in big cars,go to best public schools,flaunt latest gadgets ,FLUNK tests,have designer clothes,big bunglows,HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 24.9% POOR DALITS,have no social or matrimonial relations with the poor..........but Arjun Singh will dance to the tunes of these 0.1%
UNTOUCHABLES.
Kyunki yeh vote ka maamla hai....Let the country rot!!!
hello all,
i gt to know abt ths site only 2day.. and by then the protest march from delhi, my area had already proceeded. i strongly feel against reservations based on caste creed or religion. even though i m not a bjp sympathiser, still i cannot forget that in andhra pradesh the congress tried to bring in reservaions for muslims...and we tag only the bjp as communal.!!! all the parties in india are the same and all thrive on creating diviosions in our society. my dear educated friends, its high time we wake up and do something abt the social and political garbage that has piled up around us. I m not against the lower castes, but i feel that all indians are 1 nation and there should be a level playing field for every1.
its heartening to see that we are coming out in scores to support a just cause, but more support is required..we all nmeed to go out there and add our voices to the big shout against reservations and the dirty politics that is being played...we have a responsibility friends, a bigger responsibility as we are the educated youth of india, if we dont shoulder the responsibility, then who will???
we have to clean our own mess friends.. we cannot live oblivious of the stink.
if there is anytrhing i can do abt ths i will do...
the main issue is that many like me want to participate but dont knw who to contact.
shamik
We all support this rightful cause. We pray to give you more strength and courage for this non-violent protest.
We are not Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Sikh or SC, ST or OBC. We belong to one race i.e. Humanbeing and we belong to one community i.e. Indian.
We will succeed.
It is high time Indian Politics needs a change. It is high time Youth (Yuva)of India has to enter Politics.
Let us give the Indian Politics a new face, a face of Equality, a face of Unity and Strenght. Lets us paint it with new colour, the colour of Yuva.
Arise,Awake Yuva of India and Lets us not stop till we have achieved the goal.
Vande Mataram
Jai Hind
THIS CUT & PASTE IS FROM THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA.
PART III
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS
General
Right to Equality
14 Equality before law.
15
Prohibition of discrimination on grounds of religion, race, caste, sex or place of birth.
16 Equality of opportunity in matters of public employment.
17 Abolition of Untouchability.
18 Abolition of titles.
PART IV
DIRECTIVE PRINCIPLES OF STATE POLICY
State to secure a social order for the promotion of welfare of the people.
Certain principles of policy to be followed by the State.
Equal justice and free legal aid.
Organisation of village panchayats.
Right to work, to education and to public assistance in certain cases.
Provision for just and humane conditions of work and maternity relief.
Living wage, etc., for workers.
Participation of workers in management of industries.
Uniform civil code for the citizens.
Provision for free and compulsory education for children.
Promotion of educational and economic interests of Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and other weaker sections.
Duty of the State to raise the level of nutrition and the standard of living and to improve public health.
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ARE OUR PARLIAMENTARIANS FOLLOWING THE CONSITUTION OR MURDERING IT BY AMMENDMENTS TO SUIT THEIR INTEREST ???
THE BJP's RELIGIOUS CONVERSION BILL
CHEER UP GUYS...THERE IS SOMEONE WITH CHARACTER.
read on
Rajasthan Governor Pratibha Patil has returned a bill passed by the state assembly seeking a ban on religious conversion, saying its provisions would affect the citizens' right to freedom of religion.
WE SALUTE YOU LADY.
APKO NAMAN
JUST VISIT THIS PAGE AND LOOK THE PHOTO AS PROOF WHAT OUR 'GREAT' OBC LEADERS ARE DOING...
Jana Gana Mana...
ITS WORTH A LOOK...SHAME ON INDIAN POLITICS!!
THIS IS INTERESTING
THE BIG QUESTION : HOW COULD A LAW ( the OBC reservation) BE MADE THAT INFRINGES ON THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS ?
LOOKS LIKE IT'LL HAVE TO REACH THE PRESIDENT.
LET"S SEE, IF THIS IS KALAM's VISION 2020
OR
INDIA GOES 50:50
any bets !!
I am with you all in this. And more importantly I have totally lost faith in your PM whom I once admired. The citizens of India do deserve to hear the PMs view, in which ever side he's on.
Once again affirmative action has proved to be a very controverial subject. And it's high time the youth of India took strong interest in Politcs and do away with thier "chaltha hai" attitudes. And the media's response has been great but conclusive documentaries need to made and aired dealing with resevation chronological since conception. Perhaps similar to the way Farenheit 9/11 was made.
If there is one thing that's going to make India loose it's edge it is the new quota system. This will have high impact on India future growth.
And to those who support the seats for OBC, I have only one question. How do you/would you feel if a girl (whom our culture has also deprived them of thier very own live's through "Sati" practices and various other things I need not mention) is chosen over you? In other words girls do not need a quota, but you do? Just a thought.
The quetions are too many, and it should be strongly reviewed. I may be wrong, I would readily admit so if prooved so.
you know they have managed to stall the Women's reservation bill in parliament on the pretext that there has to be a further caste division within upper caste women and lower caste women.. UPA has not tabled it for the past two years. shameful.. By the way our history looks at the the women who commited sati en masse in Chittaur with utmost reverence. Sacrifice, character and bravery...and now we have these men of straws...
Hello All,
U guys are doing a goood Job... and I am with u all... i think our politics needs a change and this politician needs some kick..
forget that.... as we guys are united... we need to think the other way round...
we need to think like politics...
our voice is heard by millions... and also all over the world...
but we need to use cyber media and Electronic Media.... to its fullest...
we need to conduct press conference... and shoot questions and ask Media to get the answer...
Politicians now htat they will come up with some stupid plan and ask us to settle down with something..
we might agree and as time passes by the media will forget this and get into some other news..
REmmeber Bhagat singh .. he used media to raise his concern...
we need to do that... if you guys agree... any one of the doctors or IIM or IIT guy can think how the media can be used...
press conferenes... press release...
e mails....
explain our parents what this Government is doing..
Using media we need to tel lthe government that we can make new government if the youth is united..
they are not scared of us...
to make them feel scared... we need to shoot qustions to Oppossition and ask resignation of Arjun SIngh...
we need to take care that OBC and SC and ST are not troubled ...
they get their space and the creamy layer dont exploit the poor and the destitute...
I a mbein part of it by spreading the news in my society and through mails nad explaining elders what the fight is all about...
I might not be that clear.... or thast open minded..
but i think we need a CHANGE!!!!
A GREATER CHANGE FOR BETTER INDIA!!!
Sandeep, I am sure we should start pooling in money.
One possibility is contributions in the quantas of 1, 10,and 100 rs or usd. just maintain a log on the net..
And take on the media.
Just in case we donot get a response from the docs. we should go and put our contributions on the table where they are fasting.
saandeep, send the message that a Grand Blood Tranfusion camp is on at AIIMS. Some fresh blood is being infused in INdia.
The problem with these good for nothing politicians is that they aren't helping the OBC's either. The basic help they can give the backward classes is give them primary & secondary education. They don't want to do this as then they will question them on thier election promises. By screwing merit (they care two hoots) and announcing 5000 seats will not uplift the communities just divide them
Arjun Singh's father was a deputy minister in Govt. of India, when Nehru was PM. He was caught taking a bribe of Rs20000/- & was put in jail. He died, while still in jail.
hi all,
im an intern at dasmesh institute of research and dental sciences , faridkot. we along with government medical college , faridkot took out a silent protest at faridkot.
we are with all the docs protesting against reservation!!!!!!!!!!
Hindustan Times (May20,Sunday) reports that the ongong hunger strike at AIIMS is a relay Hunger strike(Page 2). I am writing a letter to the editor for clearing the misconception and blissful ignorance. but these letters are edited before being printed.So I suggest that at least 10 of us write the same thing to them so atleast one letter is printed and they don't repeat this mistake(which I think is a delibrate attempt to misguide)
Friends,
Is this just the reservations that are bringing our Nationalism out today or is there something deep rooted within us since long that wants to come out. Isn't something simmering on since long enough thats talking this all. Isn't that, we, in our own country feel persued, prosecuted, being denied the right things. Politicians making a mokery of the system to suit their needs. Even after paying our taxes sincerely, we can't even get a proper electric/water supply and we claim to be on the threshold of modern age.
Just read my post which I wanted to share with all my nationalist brothers and sisters.
Let me remind you some of the events that took place since this UPA Govt has assumed office:
1. Removing Anupam Kher unceremoniously as the Censor Board chairman. He was branded RSS man by Lefties? Is that democratic?
2. Removing NDA appointed Governors just after assuming Govt.
3. Re-writing history books. - Long live the Arjun, who is doing a Duryodhan's job, so that you only get the perspective they want you to know. Btw, if you are not aware, most of historians in the panels that draft history books are patrons of Left parties.
4. Union Cabinet minister underground - Shibu Sorent has murder charges and FIR pending. Imagine a cabinet level minister gone missing. These are the kind of people who make laws for us?
5. Democratically elected Goa State Govt is made scapegoat and thrown out by cheating by Governor/Centre.
6. Bihar election results are declared null and void by Governor Buta Singh and see what Supreme court delivered on it. Still this man took the salute on 26 Jan, which is a shame for us. Tax payers like you and me bear the 200 crore cost of unwanted election.
7. Natwar Singh, Sonia Gandhi are named beneficiary in Oil for Food bribe scam by UN's Volkers report. Natwar gone, she is still in there as the chairperson for the remote controlled PM. The commission set up to probe it will never be complete.
8. Bofors- The guns that will never fall silent. - Mr Q in Italy is helped by Ms G to get away with millions of Tax payers money stached away in UK banks and how they make us believe that it was CBI that did this and the Law minsister, Ms G and PM knew nothing. Can you buy this argument.?
9. Reservation for Muslims in AP. High court, Supreme court came down heavily on the Govt. Still they are finding out ways to get around this and continue appeasement policy. Are they secular..? Btw, OBC reservations do cover muslims and Dalit christians? Why they converted to Christianity, if they still wanted a Dalit tag?
10. Minority status for AMU. Even after receiving hammering from Supreme Court. The recent AICC convention has shown how the Govt is defiant in taking in the ruling and is still going ahead with its plans.
11. Bangladesh in Assam - The demographics of the state has changed virtually with the unabated influx of Bangladeshi's. The supreme court scrapped the IMTD act (Applicable in Assam only) - which allowed free home to Bangladeshi. Now with that act gone, the central Govt is setting in a tribunal under Foreigners Act to allow people to prove that they are not foreigners. How difficult is it to get a ration card in India..?? Rs 500-1000. Thats the way the Govt is planning to allow these people to stay in Assam and make one more Kashmir for us.
12. The Govt. tinkered with the idea of compiling data on Muslims in Army. About their field positions, social background and other such info. Isn't it making tasks simpler for likes of ISI. They will get a compiled report. Armed forces so far have been apolitical and based on merit.
13. Scorpene Submarine Scandal - Known commission is to the tune of 800 crore. Could we not have more IIM's, IIT's and AIIMS with the whole deals money which is Rs 18,500 crore? Do we need submarines or more schools/colleges? Ironically, it may end up in yet another schools scam.
14. Office of Profit - Did we want a re-election in Rae-Bareily? Why is our hard earned money wasted on such events. Madam Gandhi started this by targeting Jaya Bacchan and when she saw fire engulfing her, she became socalled ""Supreme"" by Sacrificing her MP seat, just to re-enter parliament wasting tax payers money and what happened to the Office of Profilt thing. Simple, the Govt just modified constitution to suit their needs. Exclude all such posts that UPA ministers/MP's are holding. Is this not killing the constitution and using parliament to suit their own needs. - Be it Congress, "Moral High" Lefties or BJP's
15. Delhi Demolitions - MCD/Politicians collude with builders - allow rampant violations of Land use. Shut their eyes on illegal constructions mushrooming all over Delhi. When the High court goes after the illegal encroachments/buildings, Our honourable MP's (ALL OF THEM) pass a bill putting demolitions on hold. Are they doing Public service or dis-service??
16. Mandal - II - We all know what this is all about. Driving a wedge between society. Govt could not get reservations for muslims, "Dalit Christians" and ofcourse their OBC vote bank. Who is benefiting by this reservations? People in AP, Maharashtra, Orrisa are committing suicide because they can't support their families. Can they afford lacs of rupees as fee for IIM's and AIIMS? Its the creamy effluent layer in OBC's that is benefitted by this policy.
Btw, remember the previous Congress Govt..? Narisimha Rao. Some of their achievements
- Security Scam/ Harshad Mehta
- JMM bribery case for saving Govt in parliament. (Shibu Soren)
- St Kitts Forgery case (Lakhu Bhai Pathak)
- Sugar Scam
- Coal Scam
- Urea Scam
- UTI scam
- Petrol Pump Allocation Scam
This is what I could gather from my short memory. Almost every ministry had a scam to its credit and even the PM was not spared. Accused by Harshad Mehta and Lakhu Bhai for having received money. The scams during that period were to the tune of Rs 1300 crore (including the famous Laloo Fodder Scam) and where are we today..? Nothing happened. Just commissions constituted, with no outcome. Was even a single politician prosecuted.
This is the report card of the UPA Govt in just over two year. Imagine what Congress has been doing around for past 50 years it has ruled India. Its just that now we have these mediums to share our thoughts and view points.
Thats why we need movie's like RDB to rekindle our senses and make us stir up our lost memories about freedom fighters other than the Nehru/Gandhi Parivaar and before another Gandhi (rahul) is super-imposed on to this nation. We need to get up..
Was wondering whom the newly developed airports would be named after.. Which Gandhi this time..??
Please think brothers.. The English left shores 60 years back, but they left the Italians and Congress for us to deal with. Think....!! Help this nation rid itself from dynasty rules, corrupt politicians and people with ideologies which are regressive for the nation (Left parties). The Left parties which today claim to represent the poor lot have their masters in China. If anyone remembers, these are the same people who were busy raising funds for China during the 1962 Indo-China war.
Keep this list updated by adding where ever the Govt falters and read it before you go out to vote next time.
PLEASE VOTE - thats the only way we can bring in about changes, if not by jumping into the world of politics.
PLEASE CIRCULATE AMONG YOUR FRIENDS/FAMILY - PLEASE DO SO
If you cant email it, print it and hand it out to people
Cheers Pals
JAI HIND
Yuva Udaay..
Bharat Udaay..
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DISCLAIMER
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hi..well i am dissapointed with the attitute of media towards this protest.....they are showing all biased things.....well to add more...SALMAAN KHAN gt more AIR Time on TV than this protest......Well i guess he was more imp to Govt.....
visit ujjwal.coz.in
for more on snaps at delhi's 20th march...
UPA Govt has put the 50% women reservation bill into cold storage.
Should women not get 50% of seats in Parliament? Why such discrimnation?
If they call us Casteist, is the Govt not Sexist?
Should they not implement it urgently, the way they are keen for this OBC stuff?
MEDIA THING:
AAJ TAK IS POLITICALLY INFLUENCED...BUT THE BEST COVERAGE OF OUR PROTEST IS BEING DONE BY CNN-IBN.
hey pleasee tell me has someone died while hungerstriking?????
please say that it is a rumour...please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no one has died while hunger striking.but the students' blood sugar levels are pretty low....they are being monitored every two hours.
and i do agree...cnn ibn is giving the best coverage.
ndtv has been disappointing.
Sidharth, thanks for telling us the 'bare' truth about what you think of 'democracy'. Thanks for revealing all about your idea of 'equality'. Congratulations on seeing through your comrades' 'nautanki'!
and thanks star news for 'uncovering' the truth for one
hi ppl govt of india has threatned to call army docs instead of us ....its a blackmail lets not succumb to it and plz plz continue our strike till the zenith is acheived .they are cheaters who have utter diregard for us and they r openly denying setting up of an apolitical committee.......why??and quotas are coming nw while seats will be increased later.....why???these are real dumbasses sitting ther who have utter disregard for human life..and future of country....plzzzz hold on and continue this as this is nw or never ..............
anonymous,
'UPA Govt has put the 50% women reservation bill into cold storage.
Should women not get 50% of seats in Parliament? Why such discrimnation?'
the proposed bill is for 33% reservation for women, not 50%..such 'meritorious' knowledge about the country!
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hi. great spirit people.. we today gathered five thousand tomorrow it will be even more... this figure is definately not small as it had all learned people of india, call it medicos , engineers, charted accountants, specialist in thier own feild... i feel proud that this was one of those rally where people were not called or given invitation but they came and walked with others chantin patriotic songs with their will.. i guess this is one of the best way to allow people with some intellutual to join us.. navjot singh sidhu was walkin right at start of rally . it is people like him who insipite of being politician cannot inhibit their inner true feelin who joined as hindustani fighting for rights and equality... i guess more of this is needed so people come out of their inhibition ..in our local area undergraduate medicos did street play at different places in evenin session and walk from one destination to other with candles lighten in our hand.. we had people s opinion also , they did speak against reservation everywhere .. people are watchin this sight .. one female had quoted the comment of reservation in indian criket team which i saw in afternoon . so people are gettin information.. its just time when can we increase the number .. we might b in few thousands today but we expect greater tomorrow.. plz do participate in smallest of the event happenin in ur locality....make urself counted today for betterment of ur nations tomorrow .. people might not remember u but they will remember u took procession u took rally u did strike u did all the possible things ..... i can see all things which film directors showed us om screen sofar say it "nayak", "one day s cheif minister or say it" rang de basanti " .. dont u guys see all the scene happenein in our own nation in livee.. wat r these politician waitin for ..... some buses to be burnt or some people to be killed and then they come in to action.. plz ffw all these comments to all ur freinds and family members ........ the thoughts in this are valued and counted coz they are not illetrate neither they come from politician......
anonymous,
'.. would like to fund if any one or group would come to assasinate Arjun Singh. Unfortunately I cannot do that since I am in a different country. you name it 100,000USD?? '
peaceful? add to this all the insults you heap everyday on the obcs and dalits..peaceful?
are we guys lookin for civil war ahead............... these politican are just not ready to listen and will take descision on monday,, cant india s prime minister sitt back on saturday evenin snd get the things going and make sound descision.... wat is he waitin forr . for sonia gandhi to come and direc him as always.........
NDTV Correspondent
Watch story
Saturday, May 20, 2006 (New Delhi):
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has appealed to the striking doctors to call off their eight-day long agitation and to have faith in government's sincerity.
A PMO spokesperson said the Prime Minister has received the report of the GoM on the reservation issue and would examine it.
A group of ministers assigned to find a solution has recommended that the quota be issued in a phased manner over a period of three years.
He said the Prime Minister has appealed to the student community to desist from resorting to agitations on the matter.
Singh is likely to begin talks with political parties from Monday on the issue.
Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee, who is in touch with the striking medicos, briefed the Congress Working Committee on the matter.
The government has asked military doctors to take charge of state-run hospitals, if doctors do not end their anti-reservation protests by Monday.
Hi friends,
supporter of Youth for Equality and support the cause as this issue is of long ago of schs days of mine.
surprised tht there is no comments frm pm office as if he not knw tht this same issue was the cause of govt fall in ninetes.
Beware ppl of pro quota coz if as caste is not in anybody hand but whtever we do whtever we coments whtever we think is totally in the hand of you. see wht we can do for others.
supportr of anti quota especially in medica which should not envolve any type of comprise.
Oh ..we the soft INdians..
The media is still bothered about
the chemistry between the two Singhs.
Not about the validity of the ammendment.
The media is talking about SC/ST/OBC,
where it is about, Literacy, education and knowledge
The media is debating caste hierarchy..
What about Science, research and technology ??
The media is conducting polls on a law that violates fundamental rights.
The media is taking of how to increase the seats to 'accomodate' all the sections.
The issue is are there teachers, labs, hostels ?
WAKE UP INDIAN MEDIA ,THHE TIME IS TO GROW OUT OF GLAMOUR & RELATIONSHIPS, AND CHIT-CHAT & NETWORKING.
there's no way you'll remain a 21 yr. old all your life.. how much you may pretend.
We are worried about our ALMA MATER, our Mother, we are worried about the erosion of the very institutions on whose hard work 'India is boasting today and there seems to be a future,. 100's of us are on fast..risking our carreer, getting termination notices and you are blowing hot air .
Some great soul said this.. a tree grows strong braving 100's of year of sun, hail , storms and quakes ,and a fool takes no time to chop it down.
This state of our inteligentia also reminds me of a joke..
A. Fire Fire..
B. Oh so wot's my problem ?
A. Its YOUR house on fire !
B.So wot's your problem ?
you cannot afford to ignore the voice of the techies and the concern of the institutions which have made their mark and are respected globally.
What a sorry state we have come down to..
Argumentative Indians ? Myfoot, we're not even Indians. We still deserve to be trampled under foot of whosoever sells a dream, mirage , illusion for a few more centuries.
GO AND COVER CANNES FILM FESTIVAL SMARTIES . WE SHALL DIE IN OUR INSTITUTION
For Indiatimes - Cannes is more important. This newspaper and its website is trash and more of a sex tabloid.
Where are the socially active people - Shabana Azmi? Aamir Khan? Javed Akhtar? Medha Patkar? Arundati Roy?
Do they not have any opinion on this issue? Why are not they voicing their concerns?
Where are our Beauty Queens, who during Miss India contest claim to work for the down troddens?
OBCVoice,
Thanks for the update about it being 33% reservation for women. But you did not Voice your views on the bill being dropped?? Where did your OBC Voice go??
Read my another post about the 16 points I raised about UPA Govt? YOu got any opinion for that as well??
You suck..!!
forget about the camera hungry .. where are the intellectuals..
They are not going to believe that the HOUSE has Collapsed, till they have read it in the next morning newspaper.
Tavleen Singh has written an article full of self pangs , guilt and heartache ..as to what was the media ( she included) doing when this draconian bill was getting passed ?
Dear lady , we invite you to our campus, we'll wipe your tears , and assuage your hurt, we'll even give you glycerine to repeat this charade and also lot's of cotton that you can permanently keep over your eyes ..for..the truth is.. that every day a draconian law is getting passed or tabled in our parliament.. weep.. weep gallons..weep so much that your vision is blurred and you have no further excuse of not being blind.
Moratorium on demolition.
Office of profit.
Religious conversion?? Wah..
Where is women's reservation??
THIS NATION HAS GONE COMFORTABLY NUMB...
And now the party that has come to power in Tamil Nadu with the promise of 'Rice @ 2 Rs/kg, and a Color TV'..
is talking of
'equality of priestly opportunity'
meaning
All persons irrespective of caste can work as temple priests.
Any comments ?
take a gun,
take a knife,
bare hands,
ready 2 strive...
this day n' forever,
we stand together,
karmic brothers,
to fight, to fight..
in dream of an united india.
an india, superpower by 2020.
Jai Bharat!
hii..i completely believe in ur cause..all reservations shd be scrapped..bt dude iv heard dat sm1 died due to the hunger strik nd the media isnt coverin it..is dat true???????????
I am a faculty in an IIT.. I greatly appreciate the brave front the students (specially medical students) have put on the reservation issue. I am very pleased to see that the students are protesting the government's decision in a very responsible manner. I saw a student from Youth for Equality telling to general people including me in a Delhi Metro Station about the reservation issue, for which she was passionate. It is a great sign for Indian democracy. I greatly
appreciate that the whole of medical community has taken a stand, and the student-faculty have supported each other. Unfortunately, the other professional bodies, including my own institution, have not given a serious thought on this important issue.
I wish to put forth some arguments against the government moves which may interest some friends. I am feeling bad not to be able to contribute in any way.
(sorry for a long winded argument)
We do see extreme form of inequality, with wages ranging from 20 Rs. a day to 1 lac Rs. a day. Also, large fraction of population does not access to clean water and a full meal. There are destitute children on the streets. There are extreme form of discrimination in terms of
caste, gender, language, and just the color of skin. All these issues
worries a conscientious citizen of India and the world. Given the wealth trickling in the country, we should resolve to eradicate these blots in near future.
Immediately after Independence our leaders appears to have certain vision for the future of our country, and some of them have worked hard to solve its problems. However, the second-generation politicians
appear to have resorted to opportunism. The illiteracy and lack of information among people gives a perfect platform for exploiting people sentiments. The so called socialists do not worry about people at all; UP and Bihar are perfect examples of that. The politicians and
bureaucrats give doles like free electricity (when the power comes
only for several hours a day), mid-day meal in defunct primary school, a badly made brick paths, and the politicians are able to come to power year after year. So much money is being misappropriated in the
name of Sarv-Siksha Abhiyan.
Here comes another carrot, Our Honorable minister says we can't provide education to all of the children, but we can let in one in a lac to a very good college. I hear a minister saying that we don't
want any children to suffer because they are anyways our children.. Does he ever think of a rag picker in the station, and also think of that kid as a child? The whole thing is preposterous.
Let us make an analogy: In a metro like Kanpur, people have access to only a few public buses. The government says, look we can't provide public transport to all of you.. but you can come a watch a great play in the central theater (capacity of 1000) every week. How does it solve the problem? Currently, poor children do not have access to a reasonable education.. poor people do not have access to basic
amenities like clean water, sanitation, and basic health service.. there is hardly any job for youths in the villages and
townships. What government should do is to take the literacy level to close to 100%, and setup may ITI level of institutions in computer hardware, software, electronics, auto-mechanic and so on. It will take us out of rut irrespective of caste and gender. Reservation in higher studies does not solve the basic problem.
According to me, quota system does a permanent damage to the institutions of higher learning. In learning, there is nothing like compromise. This is specially true for research. Either you design a system, or have not done it. We have to push ourselves to be good in
whatever we do. I personally find that our scientific institutions and universities were in a rut for a long time, but thankfully we are coming out of it. We must strive hard to make them world-class. I don't believe in some of the argument according to which- "since these institutions have not done great.. why are they making so much fuss
about excellence?" Let us keep in mind that building excellence requires hardwork, commitment, and confidence. We will never become excellent, if think that we never were, and we will never become.
Also, excellent institutions are not for training students for jobs.. they should be geared towards excellence in thoughts. We should keep in mind that in the Russians's socialist system, the communists achieved 100% literacy in around 10 years, and they built the best research institutions in the world on merit, not on quota. We should bring in the best talents to our elite institutions from all over the country (village, townships, metros) irrespective of caste,
creed, religion, and gender.
The citizens also have to share some of the blame with politicians. The privileged class, before and now, is more interested in privileges than the society around them. The government school teachers, doctors, and government officials are not doing their due. Many scientists in the Indian research institutions prefer spending time abroad than building research teams and efforts in the country.
The middle-class parents are happy sending their children to USA than see them work in the country. No one wants to spend time in education or developmental efforts. With this background, it is impossible to achieve equality we dream of. Every dream has sweat associated with
it, and it is high-time we take the challenge. It is responsibility of all of us.. Let us not get side tracked that setting quota in a few elite colleges will solve our problem. In the globalized and modern world, we need a modern outlook.
MORE ON MEDIA..
The Hindu, editorial May 19
ON RESERVATION
After the traumatic Mandal phase, a balance has been struck, with all sections of political opinion remaining commited to reservations as a means of levelling the field for the socially and educationally disadvantaged. At the same time , a limit of 50 % has been set so that the PRINCIPLE OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY for all irrespective of caste and or religion and merit are not overridden completely.
The Hindu, editorial May 20
'The Da Vinci Code has been cleared...A govt. that considers banning a film merely because one community or other might object is one that has failed to recognise its obligation to PROTECT FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION , GUARANTEED UNDER ARTICLE 19 (a) of THE CONSTITUTION.
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On reservation issue The Hindu,says, it is the ' principle of equal opportunity'
(and not fundamental rights)
But for a movie , The Hindu knows the constitution well.
And notice the vagueness of the language.
Mr Verma , there's a very important point that is being overlooked.
That of the inherent ability of the Indian society to carry along all the disparities and differences amicably.
India is not just a country, it is a mini cosmos. Any social practice that may have occured any time in the history of humanity may still find it's presence in India ,even today. and the very sign that they have existed for so long proves they have been practiced without interference or objections.
It is said that the Indian mind flourished because it was never regulated ( by any authority) and the western economy flourished because it was never regulated, always set free.
The muddle that we are witnessing now in the country is purely 'doctrine of opportunism'. The economy is expanding,transparency is setting in, lower strata and women are getting empowered, a lot of it is because of correct use of technology , one can also say with some confidence that the politicians are getting challenged like never before.
why do you want to divide us.
my classmate had studied in the same class as me, with same books same teachers and occasionaly got better marks than me.
i will study much much harder than him but he will get admission and i wont just because he has a certificate which says he is backward. if he is backward than what am i...?
If he should get admission without studing why should'nt i inspite of studing so hard.
India is strange country
One who gets admission without any kind of hardwork or effort is called underprivileged.
and i who will study 15 hours a day regularly for 3 years and still wont get any admission will be called privileged......!!!!
STRANGE BUT TRUE
4India,and other friends in India and other places on the planet.
A good Man is one who can keep a promise.. alright
PM is educated and we loved him and we trusted him as much as we could..the whole of the youth of India I mean..
Both The PM and Prez. Kalam..
Men of words , men of integrity, son of soil etc. etc..
They have blessings of Godess Saraswati, they love there motherland..
The prez. Kalam is maintaining a deafening silence...
About our PM , I'll leave you to judge him by his speech to the Harvard alumni
as recent as March 25,2006
HARVARD UNIVERSITY ALUMNI ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE , NEW DELHI < MARCH 25, 2006
PRIME MINISTER's REMARKS
President Summons, prof. Amartya Sen, Ladies and Gentlemen
....Harvard's global brand image is videly recognised as being based on a commitment to excellence....a commitment to excellence and a commitment to liberalism and humanism...
In any developing economy and modernizing society, it is incumbent upon it's social, political and business leaders to combine a commitment to excellence with an equal, if not greater, commitment to equity and access in education. This is a challenge for policy makers. It is easy to lapse into populism or elitism and pursue policies that may have sectional appeal in the short run, but one harmful to a nation in the long run....
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the speech goes on and talks about just the things that we suffering and hurt students have been saying all along...
NOW IS THE TIME TO ASK MANMOHAN SINGH SOME STRAIGHT QUESTIONS.
DONOT HESITATE PLEASE,
BARE YOUR HEART
Manmohan Singh says
; Call off strike.
The doctors have been given termination notices, 3 days ago.
How can a terminated doctor be on strike ?
Sir, it is an agitation , no more a strike.
The strike ended the day we were terminated.
remember the song 'Sounds of silence'...people talking without speaking..
MR OBC voice...
just shhut the fuck up...will you?!
we dont need your intelligent comments here in this blog of violence...noone here is sitting here to give you the record of how much knowledge we have or how much nonviolent or violent we want to be.
You do what you think is right and let us do what we want to...get lost from here..you are wasting your time as well as ours...
http://indianskoolkids-antireservations.blogspot.com/2006/05/sare-jaha-se-achha.html
juust visit this page...it will tell you what our great OBC leaders are doing!!!
shame on them!
Before condemning the 'Godess of Sacrifices' . Let us examine how we , this land of eternal sacrifice have forgotten what is 'sacrifice' and tyaag.
It is a lesson that 'll give reason enough to all the right thinking people to rise for TRUTH.
Last govt. of BJP has probably committed a crime they donot even realise.
read on.
The main plank of BJP was establishment of Dharma, Ramrajya, to begin with a temple at the lord's birthplace. For this they had to demolish a Masjid to build a grand temple. To enable demolition ( of the mosque) they removed the Ram statue and gave him a'temporary accomodation'. They also claimed that it is alright to dismantle the mosque since it was disfunctional,and not in use. Fabulous logic.
If the mosque inside which the Ram idol was kept was not a mosque, then it was a temple. These wise men looked at the dome, (declared it a mosque) and actually destroyed the Ram temple. Funny and tragic at the same time.
And bechara Ram , he is still languishing in a tent.
And the idea of a grand temple? It will never materialise, NEVER.and it must not for the land of birth is holy , then why need a stone structure there? And is not God happy in the 'jhuggi' he's been kept, I'm sure he is.
This mindless act of misplaced bravado resulted in bloodshed, and we went backwards quite a good distance. It is said that a bad act does damage in two ways, firstly by the very result of the act, which is bad and secondly it sets a bad example that others may follow.
Now the UPA The present govt.wants to destroy some more temples. ( you see these characters cannot sit idle for a long time) This set is after the 'temples of learning'. Our new Nalandas, and Taxilas , the IITs IIMs , AIIMS. They also have a grand design that meets their own selfishness, it is so transparent, we can all see thru it. They want to claim that they are the champions of the poor but they very well know that the real champions of the poor are these institutions.
Now let us analyse the deeds of another champion of masses, Lalu Yadav. One thing that goes to his credit is the atopping of Advani's rath yatra and opposition of Ramjanmabhumi issue. It was his own insecurity more than a belief that led him act a noble deed. BJP's next religio - archaeological remodelling project was Krishna Janmbhoomi. Any agitation on Krishna janmabhoomi would have divided the Yadav ( followers of Krishna) and the Muslims. The MY combo of Lalu was at stake. And he did what was necessary to save his profession.
The list is endless. What we and those in the parliament must realise that we have to work for truth, if we donot move we'll be pushed there . Technology and knowledge is not generated by churning water, You gotta have milk to get butter..
hard facts guys,, harder times..
But look at the Kaal chakra, the cycle of time and Karma,,,
It is non other than Rajiv Gandhi who started the computer revolution in India,,.
Bravo rebelheart...
Its so nice to see for the first time a person is talking about ending the caste system...the root of reservations...the root of discrmination...make everyone equal
REMOVE THE CASTE SYSTEM FRM OUR SOCIETY...
nitin thats a terrible idea, you are the ones who are dividing and ruling
the people dying in huger strike is wrong. we started it on purpose, so that people join us for delhi chalo andolan.
Removing Caste discrimination is very very easy.
Just one resolution.
Do we have 2/3rd majority,on this ??
See how difficult it becomes.
Dear Friends,
We actually did not want to share our concern against this subject since our forum is formed for other purposes.
But, the way things are going in India such as reservation imbroglio, if we do not oppose this kind of nonsense happening in India, the modern India will go to disaster fast. Our arguements against the present reservation are not because we discriminate among the castes or we are against any caste or creed. The selfish politicians try to divide and rule the people whenever the politicians do not have strength on their own. This is just to cheat people in the name of reservation. The so-callled backward section had already moved up and they are capable of getting admissions into education institutions on their merit. By just announcing reservation for them, the politicans are doing injustice to the BCs and it makes them shy in the eyes of other people of Indian Society. For example, VP Singh divide the whole north-India of various castes when he took the ugly sword of "Mandal". We are one, We are Indians, We are one who sees the unity in diversity. No one can demolish the caste structures in India which was formed by themselves for their self-governance and for the convenience for those group of people to follow certain rules, regulations, cultures for groups themselves. But, the politicians including Arjun Singh now, play with castes so as to draw political power such as getting vote-banks which are unwarranted. I think everyone in India has self-esteem, may be, the degree varies. So, various people in our fabric of the society including the so-called stamped BCs etc, do not actually want to use the reservation-policy to get enriched in their life. Many of friends think that they feel shy when some one says that they got the job or admission due to the reservation policy. The politicians hare attacking the self-esteem of the people. So, the reservation policy is always introduced to get the votes of un-educated, to get the admissions for the childrens of MLAs, MPs, Ministers in the name of reservation.
Do anyone ever think as to why the sons and daughters of Ministers, MLAs, MPS should get employment or admission to educational institutions just because they belong tp certain castes. They have wealth for crores of Rupees. If Indian politicans continue to adopt this kind of cheap tactics, India would never become SUPER-POWER even after 25 years. The dream of Shri.Abdul Kalam will get shattered. After VP Singh had implemented erstwhile reservation earlier 15 years back, the people in India started taking sides based on castes which was never the situation before that. But, now, in this century, the people have woken up.
In India, Caste will never die, but people have been started living peacefully recognizing the cultures of various castes at the same time. So, we do not want any politicans to take the things in their hands to unite the society. People know how to unite themselves. So, we should not allow any politicians to keep one group against the other vying each other, so that they can fish out of troubled waters. V P Singh had destroyed the whole fabric of entire nation just by making a single rule 15 years back. He is considered to be "Aurangazeb of Modern India", that is why no one respects him at present in the political arena even when he is alive now and even after he has the name "Ex-Prime Minister" beind him. Now, Arjun Singh try this on an eye to establish himself in Congress in the eyes of Sonia because he does not have political life without doing certain dirty tasks like this for attracting people' s eyes.
We pray that Shri. Man Mohan Singh also should not fall prey to this ugly situation. We do not want another Singh to join the dirty band-wagon.
Even some people think that Arjun Singh might have been bribed by the foreign intelligence sources to do this in India and to destroy India dividing people in the name of Castes, creeds, etc.
Dear Indians, please wake up.
Think the following situation may arise in India soon if things go by the way it goes at present.
1.The magazines and News Papers should be published only by people who are covered by certain percentage reservation for them. Not everyone can start Magazine or Newspaper Publishing.
2.The same reservation policy would be applicable for owning the TV channels.
3. MLAs, MPs, Ministers should be selected by the Chief of Political parties based on this reservation policy only.
4. The students and NRIs should be allowed to go out of India based on the reservation policy, so the passport will be issued to the people following resrevation-restrictions. Not every eligible citizens can get the passport just because they are eligible. But, the problem is that Foreign countries should be informed about this, otherwise, they may not know whom to be employed by them (or) whom to be given admission in foreign universities and so on. Hence, there may one new ministry would be formed known as "Ministry of Foreign Governance on Reservation controls". Probably, son of Arjun Singh or Son of VP Singh can be appointed as Minister for this Ministry.
5. Only Ministers belong to certain category of caste should receive foreign ambassadors who visit India. Host of Dinners and Lunch should also be based on this reservation. So, this must be known to the visititors well in advance because the visitors should not eat in functions hosted by any people belong to other castes. Foreign visitors should be aware of this during their days of visit all the time. There will be a separate ministry to look after this governance.
6.Appointment for discussions for ministers will be given to people only after knowing whether they are already covered by percentage. Not everyone can get appointment with Ministers, MLSas, MPs, Presidents including Big industrialists. These industrialists will be given appointments only on their turn based on the reservation.
7. Each state in India will be declared as 20% reserved to so-called SCs/STs, 50% of the states reserved for so-called BCs, 30% is open. But, India can not live peacefully because politician of every State would want to declare their state to a particular reservation policy. India will become super-power soon if this is implemented.
8. Food-grains grown in India should be consumed by the Indians only based on their percentage. They can neither eat less nor more. Some would not have any food for eating though they have money beause reservation should be meticulously adopted.
9. Reserved categories need not work for 8 hours while others should work for 10 hrs though the wages and salaries given to them are the similar.
10. The Flight tickets will be issued only based on the caste-based-reservation even for the President of India if he belongs to non-reserved category.
11. Prime ministership shall be shared by rotation basis in the total of 5 years strictly based on the Reservation policy even for the Congress or Sonia or Man Mohan Singh.
12. The formation of political parties can not be allowed just like that. It should also adhere to the reservation policy. Not anyone can just form the party even if he/she is otherwise eligible.
13. Reservation will be strictly followed in Indian Military, Air and Navy forces. Other caste people will not be appointed even if there is dearth of people to fill the positions in these important organizations. If a particular post is not filled due to non-availability of certain caste people, the same should not be filled-in by other eligible caste people even if someone is willing. Everything will be based strictly on reservation policy.
14. Gold, shares, other commodities can only be bought by anyone only if he is covered by reservation, otherwise he/she should satisfy himself/herself what he gets for his/her own percentage.
If we go on explain this, there won't be any end to this nonsense things.
God only saved BHARATH so far. Hope HE/SHE continues it.
Person Of Concern For India[POCFI]
hey guys of youth for equality...... prime ministers appeal is already rejected . none of the three demands met with.. instead of wasting anymore time appeal to INDIAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT to help the cause , they r one of the biggest association.. if all IMA supportinthe local rallies tell the president of regional head to meet at state level and ask the president of this association to awaken and give its memorandum with youth for equality . untill and unless all medical services are paralysed ,government and also private medical services, these politician and people of india cannot be made aware of things goin onn......... i heard people in rally speakin this is not related to us and our job we r showin our support and protest with them... my dear frnds if this is not for u at present then this is for ur kids who will come up and face. u will be held responsible for ur kids future . dont cry then .. all have the cause and its fight for us and everyone ...thnks to pple like sidhu and shiv khera who r there to motivate also 87 yrs old dad who comes daily to aiims and gives speeches for people s encouragement and also distributed papers sayin about wat this reservation inhigher education can doo.. look at him and ask urself if he has the cause to join youth for equality then i guess each and every indian has it too..i again appeal to managing committee and descision makin committee members , just dont get support from IMA , get them involved in this protest . they just cannot afford to sit back and take rest. after all each and every graduate is the future IMA member ,, so there is no question for these people to remain silent or just do yagns for our strength , they ned to do more than this and a sloid support all over india can only help ths outt..... plzzzz do something really fastt noww students and doctors have nt ate since 7 days nowww ..... yaar konsi ma apne bache ko itne dinn bhukka rakh payegiii.. tell this to this IMA and infact all association peoplee......... we r against higher education reservation y thius news channel are always deviating from the topic . y cant they understand same candidate studies for the course of 4 1/2 yrs in same class , stay togather , have same mess, have same teachers, same library . then y reservation in higher education............ people need to consider thiss and pay a thought to it...
Jobs / education must be on basis of eligibility, not on cast..
howevever their must be financial help to poor people may be sc/st/obc or poor bramhin or any other..
Way to Go YFE!!! It's heartening to finally see a strong movement against the political boot-licking of the backward clsses in the name of development.
A message to all you people out there:
Why does anybody need reservation? Why the insecurity? IF YOU WANT THAT ACADEMIC SEAT SO BAD, PULL UP YOUR SOCKS AND EARN IT!!!
Hi,
You have started excellent movement aginst anti-reservation. We must enlighten the whole country about it implication otherwise it may implemented in private sector.
Our vision for 2020 may be impacted by such kind of reservation policy.
NOT NOW AND NEVER
I hope and pray that our spirit of agitation remain same upto the complete abolishment of the reservation policy.
I am with ....
Till .....
Chetan is
When the terrorists attacked our parliament ..It was declared a national outrage.
Now The parliamentarians are attacking IITs IIMs AIIMs
..should we sit quietly ?
great today the doctors get notice to vacate the hostels. shame on indian governement ... they dont listen to u for 8 days and now they impose their rulee . y have such democracy.. people plz awake noww. its nott todays problem. this was there since independence . it took these doctors to atleast make us realize wat v r suppose to do.. join them if u feel like them .. dont sit at home and get news frm newpaper and media , join every small little protest bbeing held in ur areaa.. IMA still silent , opposition have a patient llistenin to medicos but wat do they do.. thnks u politician u make us realize how importnat is to be born in certain caste and religion.. good job u politician ......... thnks to aal those people who voted for this government...... i will definately not vote for them.......
hey guys write to ur private docotors in ur locality sms them show them wat government is tryin to implement ,, may be each one of these docotrs then appraoch and call their group leader and tat way they gather for this reservation issue... this people are being silent beyond tolerance now......noone speakina single statement .. wat for r they doin yagns if they cannt stand by us(yfe)
i belong to a wealthy family
i have everything i have ever wanted
all the time in my life is either spent on listening to music or studying or on net
but.....
isnt this is a fact that while i blissfully escape to my deep slumber there are millions who dont get to sleep on a nice cushioned pillowed bed.,....
while i blissfully eat there are millions who are starving.....
while everyday in the morning i get up and decide what i should wear there are millions who have only one pair of clothes to wear.......
i know im in a wrong place at the right time .....because supposedly im supposed to write my revolutionary thoughts on well...u guessed it right anti-reservation but this is my belief that the stuff thats happening presently stems from illiteracy,poverty,starvation. And thats the stuff government takes advantage of becuz these people are fickle minded, well not exactly but they would feed on whatever our so-called patriarches of the society give them.
Somehow it sincerely affects not all this hue n cry about reservation but the condition of those people.As it is,im not at all going to mention reservation at all. all i wanna say is i wanna help the people...poor underprivileged people...the dying children ...the uneducated ones.
because if we are not going to think about educating them, breaking the barrier between the rich and the poor their can never be equality. The so-called SHINING INDIA would come later. Tell me how can a country develop when so many people dont have anything to eat,when so many people are illiterate.
My motive is just to urge people to come forward,to help the needy,to have a revolution like this one we are witnessing right now. To remove the corrupt politicians becuz they are the reason why only certain section of society is so wealthy. the people who are big and who make a difference are just people like you and me. but the only difference is they aspire for much beautiful things while we settle for a gud career loads of money n loads of fun............
well yeah we can help ....by spending time with the people who have cancer,AIDS or anything.
also we can take time to educate them or by donating clothes food newspapers to the NGO organisations.
SOURCE:indianskoolstudents blog
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More often than not I am compelled to ponder ...why doesn't India value talent?Talent, which is irrespective of caste, colour,sex or religion, is not dependent on one's social or economic backgrounds...mostly it is innate, which is further cultivated through hardwork and sincere dedication to learn and excel in a particular field.So what has caste got to do with it?
but what does India want?
No matter if you are talented or not, you must be attractive material to gather votes.Talent-a something in India that is never valued.
Take the case of reservations for STs,SCs and OBCs in the leading graduate and post graduate courses and the very respectable IIMs and IITs.IIT-the third best institution in the world.A place known to assess pure talent and brain...but even IIT was not spared from the government's scourge to gather votes from the OBCs.Now just imagine...50% of the students in IIT will be there due to the reserved quota.They know they needn't work hard to get in,because half the seats are already reserved for them.They needn't even care for being there because the government is working upon the reserved quota for them in jobs,also in private sector.Since the last 50 years they have got their share of jobs and education through reservations and the same is expected for the next 50 years.What benefit would they get from this anyway?Is this making them at par with the non-backward groups?Or distancing them from others?Why is the government playing 'divide and rule' part 2?
I have tried my level best to comprehend what exactly is the benefit of these reservations.Few days before I have heard that foreign professional universities have increased the quota for Indian students.Because they value talent and know that Indian minds are the best amongst the world.Its a pity that the leaders of this country are unaware of this fact and feel no need to stop this brain drain.Some even encourage and support it thinking it would benefit the country in the form of accrual of higher remittances from abroad.That is how talent is drained out of the country.That is why intellectual people prefer to move and settle abroad where there is value for their talent and abilities,leaving behind India the land of caste divisions,a place where you have to fight and fight for justice which you will never get....a place where you exhaust yourself after years of indefatigable study and an OBC walks away with your aspired job with the reserved quota.HA! And then you say...India is 'developing'...
THE DOCTORS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO VACATE HOSTELS ???
COWARDS
PUPPETS OF AN ITALIAN WOMAN
YOU CAN"t TALK AT PAR..
YOU HIDE YOUR FACES..
YOU SPREAD LIES..
YOU DONOT SAY WHAT YOU MEAN..
ARE WE ANY LESS EDUCATED THAN YOU Mr. MANMOHAN ?
542 CANNOT HIJACK THE COUNTRY ??
THE SAME BRAINS THAT YOU CELEBRATE, ARE THE ONES WHOSE NECK YOU SLASH.
BRAVO FRIENDS, HERE's an opportunity..
let us OPEN OPD ON THE ROAD. WE"ll LIVE ON THE ROAD AND SERVE HUMANITY.
IF THEY REMOVE US FROM OUR JHUGGIS....THEN WE"LL LYNCH THEM TO DEATH ...
WE CAN EVEN NAME OUR JHUGGI CLUSTER ' YOUTH FOR EQUALITY OPEN HOSPITAL'. LET US SEE WOT THEY DO
STRENGHT STRENGT STRENGTH
THIS IS THE SECOND WAR OF INDEPENDENCE
The issue of reservations has sort of brought the Youth of India together. To comment on reservations as a form of Affirmative action one can only say that its one of the worst and least efficient methods of achieving social justice. The midday meal scheme implemented by the goverment has infact ensured more students from weaker sections of the society are attending and will complete their school education as compared all the reservations may have delivered in the last 50 Years.
Reservations as a policy are also self perpetuating since its not in the interest of the person enjoying the benefit to get out lest he/she looses her/his "Benefit".
I think we the youth need to think on two lines of attack on the current ruling class.
1. Ask for complete roll back of reservations as a form of Affirmative action and its replacement with tools which are more efficient in delivery of the benefit.
2. Ensure that the current political ruling class is replaced by a group which is more representative of our demographic profile, our wishes and aspirations.
Dear Docs,
Please be aware if you are planning to come to UK for further studies, do remember that you do not get to work without a WORK PERMIT now.
The ruls for PERMIT LESS entry for Docs to UK is over, so bear this as well in mind..!!
Continue the fight, we Indian Middle Class are with you
Regards
Indian @UK
Mr Moderator,
PLEASE START A YAHOO GROUP
So that we all can register and are coordinated and well informed about this
Pan-India
Second War of Independence
Indian2Core
Hi guys look what I found,
Source: http://esa.un.org/unpp/P2k0data.asp
According to UN estimates Indian population within the age group of 15-24 is around 21 crore.
I had to use the UN data because our Govt. is among the few who don't updated data.
If we do a back of the envelop analysis, that the population between the age group 18-24 (i.e. colleges going boys and girls)are half of 21 crore(which is not a bad assumption to make) i.e. then the population who are of the age to go to college and the Universities stands around 11 crores.
Do we have that number of colleges in India? The HRD ministry site says that we have 16885 colleges with 99.54 lakhs students(http://education.nic.in/higedu.asp).
when jobs are coming from the whole world to India and so when we need more and more quality education then the government is reserving 50% seats in places where where we have good quality education.
Result: making the good places bad and opening up more low quality places(I read that they are proposing 154 seats for every 100 seats, where will they get the teachers from seeing that we already have a high student to teacher ratio). Kick the efficient ones out bring in the undeserved people and lower down the efficiency level of the whole working population. and we say that the Govt. is for the development of the country.
Its ridiculous.
And you know the estimated cost of increasing facilities to accomodate quota candidates is put at Rs 8,000 crore,
And our PM happens to be an Economist.
What a joke!!!!!!!
Many centuries people of England ruled on India by using method of Divide and Rule Now people of "Italy" coming to rule india by same method.
Many centuries people of England ruled on India by using method of Divide and Rule Now people of "Italy" coming to rule india by same method.
Many centuries people of England ruled on India by using method of Divide and Rule Now people of "Italy" coming to rule india by same method.
check this out..
http://www.iitfoundation.org/msgboard/showmsg.php?&id=2999&sortby=thread&
Can Arjun Singh himself take such decision without the consent of Sonia . It is a game plan of Sonia to polarize voters in coming election of UP. Until we not shout slogan against Sonia congresi will not bother.
Politicians often says atrocities by uppercast for thousands years. But we were ruled by muslims and English for last 12 hundred years . even now we are rulled by an Italian.
Politicians often says atrocities by uppercast for thousands years. But we were ruled by muslims and English for last 12 hundred years . even now we are rulled by an Italian.
I heard a story of a doctrine called DEVIDE & RULE, Invented by britishers to rule the princely indian states and had left their legacy with the indian poloticians.
Eversince our independence, we are suffering due to the same policy by different political parties though under different names. some used religion (hindu,muslim,christian,sikh,etc) as the base to devide or some used their classes workers with owners, & then some used SC/ST with the rest, and the list of politacal parties will end but the means of devision wo'nt.
Quota system is the simplest form of policy with the government to implement there ideas of division.
To end this once & for all, the policy of quota has to go completely rather than just from reservasion for OBC from higher education.
Give this a thought.......... THNX
This is our voice and we are all together, we have to show them what's the truth and what their bullshit dirty politics has been doing with the Future of India for last 55 years. We all have to be united against this imposed vote bank saver and fight for the right of equality.
HELLO
FIRENDS
I WOULD LIKE TOO DRAW UR ATTENTION THAT WE SHOULD ALSO PROTEST AGAINST CONGRESS BECOZE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE STRIKE AGAINST RESERVATION IN B.J.P RULED STATE WE SHOULD PROTEST ON CONGRESS HOUSES N BURN THEM OUT SOO THAT THEY MAY GET LESSON ON RESERVATION ISSUE N FOR THAT WE DONT HAVE TOO FIGHT WITH POLICE BECOZ ACTUALLY B.J.P WANTS TOO HELP US BUT BECOZ OF O.B.C VOTE BANK THEY R NOT COMEING INFRONT
Somebody had posted this up above: "brahminical bastards. u deserve to be beaten with chappals and made to clean public toilets ".
My dear fella, it is because of such attitude of hatred that you people are still suffering after reservations for 57 years. (May be my ancestors were right in treating you that way, then) And my promise, you will suffer for next 57000 years. You people will never become "civilized", and will use the same language of dogs, no matter whatever education you get. Forget about making us clean toilets, just let this reservation end, and see what we do to you.
Can somebody do "Rang De Basanti" in case of Arjun Singh-the dalal, Manmohan-the impotent and Sonia-the Roman?
afew thousand doctors want to dictate agenda for the nation whose views are expressed through parliament.merit is humbug,depending upon the person assessing it.it is no absolute pstulate.academic merit is creation of social conditions.accept reality and join your duties and sreve the nation.jug
Poverty is no problem in India. No poor Brahmin has revolted against a rich Brahmin. In a Brahmin institution, its owner, always employs poor Brahmins, his own jatwalas, to see that the employees do not revolt. There is no trade union of poor Brahmins against the rich Brahmin employer.
Class solidarity: There is nothing like class solidarity of the poor. In Bombay textile mills, upper caste mill workers went on strike against their own Dalit colleagues employed in the weaving section.
A "class" is temporary but "caste" is permanent. There is no promotion or demotion in a caste society.
Poverty is not permanent. It can change any time as many Dalit-Backwards have become rich in the last 30 years.
But caste is permanent. It never changes. A born Dalit dies as Dalit even if he becomes rich. In every village of Punjab Dalits have their separate burials. Caste fixes your place — not poverty.
In "Hindu India" poverty yardstick makes no sense.
THIS IS A WAR GUYS!!!!
SAR KATWAA SAKTE HAIN LEKIN SAR JHUKA SAKTE NAHIN!!!!
INQUILAAB ZINDABAAD!!
GO INDIA GO!!!
Y4E ZINDABAAD!!!
http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/fullbvideo.php?id=10554
please copy paste this clip and see what CNN says about reservation. How a rickshawalla's son cracked the IIT JEE without any support or reservation. His family is so proud of him so we are . He said that he do not need any pity or reservation .If he is capable he can do it. Why cant evry one who is trying to take help of reservation think like this boy? We are proud of you dear brother.
MANMOHANJI CHUPPI TODO,
SNIAJI KA PALLU CHHODO.
WHY ARJUN SING IS HAVING SEX ON MONDAYS AND SATURDAYS ONLY?
BECAUSE OTHER DAYS ARE FOR RESERVED CANDIDATES.
Let's get united and fight against this reservation, we are fourty percent and some party will surely support us.
We should have a more democratic and sustained struggle which involves a wider range of diverse groups.
To show we are truly against all forms of reservations and discriminations we must fight for abolishing private education and ask for free and good quality education for all.
We must also resist the fact that the government is making a fool out of us by decreasing the number of government colleges and jobs over the years but increasing the number of seats in private colleges which largely only benefit the rich - those who can pay huge capitation fees for admissions. After all if an idiot pays his way through to become a doc or an engineer also messes up the merit argument.
So Dr. Ajay Jain from "People's Action" is from the RSS?? Then why are we letting him become our spokesperson. these RSS types can be really shady.
Are we all really Against All Discriminations?? then ...
We must demand and unite in our fight to abolish of all forms of discrimination and reservations:
ABOLISH ALL FEES FOR EDUCATION AND ABOLISH CAPITATION FEE/PRIVATE EDUCATION: (Germany has free education for all)
Good Quality Education must be a social need and FREE which has to be fulfilled by the state. After all we do pay taxes to the government to provide us quality services. It is when, we the middle class chose to opt out of government schools that education suffered. If there were ONLY government schools we ALL (irrespective of castes) would have united much earlier and could have really kicked ass and ensured good education for all. The same happened with water, electricity, transport, health services etc. We let the government take us for a long long ride - we did not fight... instead we chose an easy way out...today we all have aquaguards, generators, invertors, personal cars etc. and the government is sitting on its fat arse doing nothing.NOTHING. Forget higher education...Why cant the government supply clean drinking water even after 55 years of independence???Why must we buy aquaguards while the poor ( irrespective of their caste) continue to suffer???
Why should we pay taxes and then have to pay again and again for services which are useless, while an idiot with cash becomes a doctor simply by buying his way through into private medical colleges??? WHY??
The pro reservation sections had more than 200 doctors and faculty gathered together at AIIMS in support of several issues. Many among the pro reservationists also have valid and common points simila to YFE, and neither is their protest composed of OBS or ST/SC's only.
what is point of YFE taking about creating a social backlash when most of the engineers and doctors will refuse to work in the rural areas or will be going abroad.
We tax payers are subsidising most of the technical education which is being used to fullfill the personal greed and ambitions of those who are rich enough to do private practice, work independently or study abroad.
friends now this is true that all what happens in kashmir is right we have too move like that becoz we should now doo something like terriost in our country becoz this country never understand what people wants from them i belive in now in way of voilance nice_guylove@yahoo.com
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