EVENTS ON 22nd May : BLACK OUT at 8 pm all over India
On the 22nd of May 2006, the UPA Government completes two years in power. On this day, we appeal to the general public to come out in support of us to observe a black out by switching off all lights for 10 minutes from 8pm. We need your support in our agitation against caste based reservation.
Also in Orissa, a rally at Bhubaneshwar is being held by all the 3 medical colleges and being joined by students and people across all fields.
posted by Youth For Equality @ 7:49 am
338 comments
338 Comments:
is ther any protest in mumbai plz inform me vivek frm mumbai
I WANT TO ASK WHY DOES A COMPLETE DOCTOR WHOSE DECISIONS CAN MEAN LIFE AND DEATH FOR SOMEONE, REQUIRE RESERVATIONS FOR HIGHER STUDIES.
IS DOCTOR THROUGH RESERVATIONS ANY LESS A DOCTOR
also send them two truckloads of freh dung as gift
I have been in support of this movement right from the early days, and I am still. But I take this oppurtunity to make an appeal to all doctors, regarding stop '' calling peoples from quota as incompetent''. Many a times people from such quotas outshine we people. Moreover, its against our etiquette to talk and protest preaching such cheap slogans. I agree such reservation should not be implemented at higher education level( post grad, post BE ). I welcome some healthy responses
why not send sms messages, to let every body know about tomorrows plans, and open a yahoo chat group too for youth for equality.
IT IS TIME TO COME ON STREET AND MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD TO THE DEAF EARS OF OUR PM.
ORGANISE A NATION WIDE BANDH A COMPLETE STRIKE, CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE NON COOPERATION AND EVERY THING ELSE THAT IS POSSIBLE TO STOP THIS INSANITY OF RESERVATIONS.
hey guys send this sms to all u know too...... let the world see dark india .......... all becuase of these politician........ as i told earlier IMA bombay supported . ask them to have state meetin and gather all local IMA under one roof.. untill this system of health care is paralysed noone will come down on the street .. even opposition is waitin for somethin to happen and then they wake up in parliament .. cheap politics cheap pple.. how can we elect them again ..... if in next election any one of these MP is re-elected then sahme on we indians who cannot identify who is correct............ get media in to it .. give it in all newspaper in hindi , english and marathi and even few south languages ...... make pple aware of charter of demands also via media .. get pple who have passed frm these elite institue and are abraod now in to action ,, ask them to raisew their voice against government if they feel so........ 5000 pple in rally wasn tenough for our government to wake up............ i again pray to god to give enough strength to aal pple involved in yputh for equality ......... we may have to fight freedom struggle again.......
y is government so much worried on non political judicial and expert committee for reviewing this quota system......... if they r so sure tat by this method they can get the backward class pple in front then let it b judged by these expert committee pple .. they shall favour government if they also feel so and observe the same. the very denial of government to make such committee is they r afraid they have taken a wrong step and they never thought tat pple of india will ever revolt in this manner of equality against them ........... let this pple rulin in parliament know " DO NOT TAKE US FOR GRANTED "this might just b the last time ever we see this government......... plz take up comments on this site and email to pple u come across who r non medicos , they may b ur relative, frnds , teachers, anyone for tat matter...... let them know wat shuld they do when they go and vote next time.......WAKE UP CALL FOR ALL TRUE INDIANS
hey also watch devils advocate on cnn ibn at 12 :30 tomorrow and watch karan thapar unravel the real face of arjun singh, our no longer hon'ble hrd minister..
SOME ONE SENT THIS TO ME, 'C++'
IF IT WORKS
THE RESERVATION ALGORITHM
/*BEGIN FUNCTION*/
function reservation_percentage=Reservation(Caste, original_reservation_percentage, marks, CGPA,annual family income)
print(“original meaning of CGPA”)
print(“Cumulative Grade Point Average”)
print(“Redifining CGPA…….”)
CGPA=”Caste Group Promotion Average”
/*BEGIN FC CASE*/
if (caste= FC)
if(marks>99)
print(“So what. You don’t deserve to study, get lost!!!!)
endif
if(marks<99)
print(“get lost anyway!!!)
endif
endif /*END FC CASE*/
if(caste=OBC) /*begin OBC case*/
if(annual family income(actual)< per capita income)
print(“Impossible, you are the prime landowners in India”)
print(‘good, you have adjusted it yourself”)
endif
if(annual family income(actual)>per capita income)
print(“Nevermind, we will adjust anyway”)
adjustment_to_income=any factor that will ensure that income falls below per capita;
annual family income(official)=adjustment_to_income*annual family income(actual)
print(“Now you can call yourself backward”)
endif
if(marks>90)
print(“How did you manage to get the question paper, let me know too!)
endif
if(marks<90)&&(marks>80)
print(“Brilliant ! We will sponsor your studies abroad”)
endif
if(marks<80)
print(“The Forward caste have unfair advantage, so we will compensate!!) compensation_for_unfair advantage=10;
marks = marks+compensation_for_unfair_advantage;
percentage_reservation=original reservation percentage+10;
if reservation percentage>100
print(“No problem, we will increase seats for you, who says 100% is the limit”)
endif
endif
/*Initial Adjustments completed*/
/*Begin Final Adjustment*/
/* Call function recursively*/
original_reservation_percentage=Reservation(caste,original reservation percentage,marks, cgpa, annual family income)
endif
/*end OBC case*/
if (caste= =SC/ST)
/* Begin SC/ST case*/
if(annual family income > per capita income)
print(“you must be powerful sc/st leader’s son/daughter and the key to their vote bank”)
actual reservation adjustment = same as OBC;
endif
if(annual family income< per capita income)
promise= “We will ensure you get full justice”
actual meaning = “If you start getting educated, who will do the dirty jobs for us”
if( time for election<2 months)
print to screen(promise)
print to memory(actual meaning)
end if
if(election is over)
/*Begin Blame routine*/
print(“The Forward castes have sabotaged the reservation scheme”)
print(“Finish Them Off”)
endif
endif
/*END SC/ST Case*/
end if
/*END FUNCTION*/
NOTE :- THIS FUNCTION WILL ONLY WORK ON PROGRAMS THAT ARE COMPILED IN
OBC++ COMPILER, AND CAN BE EXECUTED IN ONLY WINDOSE RE PLATFORM.
AS OF TODAY GOVERNMENT STATUTES REQUIRE THAT ALL SYSTEMS WILL COMPUSORILY RUN ON WINDOSE RE. ANY ONE FOUND TO BE IN POSSESION OF ANY OTHER OPERATING SYSTEM WILL BE PROSECUTED.
WINDOSE RE is WIDE INDIAN NETWORK OF DIRECTIONLESS OPERATING SYSTEM ENTITIES, RESERVATION EDITION
FUTURE EDITION I.E WINDDDOSE RE (WIDE INDIAN NETWORK OF DIRECTIONLESS DIVISIVE DICHOTOMOUS OPERATING SYSTEM ENTITIES, RESERVATION EDITION) IS BEING DEVELOPED
keep it up delhiities "hum tumhare saath hai" we wil always b wid u .
ITS A MUST FOR ALL.. DO VISIT THE FOLLOWING SITE.. KARAN THAPAR INTERVIEWS ARJUN SINGH..
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/devils-advocate-arjun-singh/11063-4.html
To: President Of India
Following are the problems because of the Reservations in Private Sector:
1. Talented people will not get good position. So they will get migrated to other countries.
Causing India loosing the Talent.
2. No new MNC will enter India. Becoz they won't spare employees without Talent unlike our Govt Companies.
Causing Unemployment in India.
3. Existing Indian/MNC companies will stop their units and will slowly migrate to other countries where they will get benefit.
Causing degradation of development.
4. People will fight each other on caste basis.
Causing violation in India. No peace can exist.
These are the major factors which will affect the nation.
I request you to please stop the proposal of Reservations in Private Sector. Also try to remove them from all the sectors. Please make the reservations only based on the economic status rather than caste.
Some political leaders to cash the vote bank are trying to put reservations based on caste and religion in private sectors too.
Please stop this and make India as a developing nation.
Sincerely,
I saw the interview online he claims to know nothing:
what is the percentage of OBC
how many r studying how many r not
wat percent of seats rgoing to be reserved.
y he is the minister then!!!!!
gaddi chorke humko bakso yaar
Caste based reservation and tushtikaran policies should be completely removed from India as they are spreading the poison of inequality in the Indian Society. What right did they have to touch the sacred Constitution when it was clearly written in the constitution that the reservations should be only for ten years. Are these people think themselves bigger than Dr. Ambedkar? Bhrast log tushtikaran ka jahar pilakar bharatiya samaj ke saath 'divide and rule" ki neeti apna rahe hain. Throw them out!
As told in the online interview , if Arjun Singh claims not knowing the ABCs about the education pattern in OBCs, what he is doing in Indian politics since last so many years, only managing party funds. What the opposition parties doing till now. Varun Gandhi, wake up! The Indian youths will be behind you. Reservation & Rising Prices are today's burning issues.Corrupt politicians are involved in rigging the stock market and commodities market. Inhonen Garibon ke Aate Dal ko bhi nahin chhoda , usme bhi satta (speculation) chalakar garib aur kisanon ko aur garib aur backward bana rahe hain, aur backward classes ko aage lane ki sirf batein karte hain. All BCs and OBCs please beware!
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EVENTS for 22nd May : BLACK OUT at 8 pm all over India On the 22nd of May 2006, the UPA Government completes two years in
power. On this day, we appeal to the general public to come out in
support of us to observe a black out by switching off all lights for 10
minutes from 8pm. We need your support in our agitation against caste
based reservation.
Also in Orissa, a rally at Bhubaneshwar is being held by all the 3
medical colleges and being joined by students and people across all
fields.
CAN YOU PLEASE focus a lot ON INDIA'S FAILURE AT PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION? THIS CAN BE A VERY EFFECTIVE POINT.
WHEN AND WHERE IS THE RALLY AT BHUBANESWAR BEING HELD? EVEN THOUGH I STAY AT BHUBANESWAR - I JUST HAPPENED TO KNOW THIS BECAUSE I SAW THIS WEBSITE JUST NOW - CAN THINGS PLEASE BE MORE ORGANISED? IF THIS ITEM HAD BEEN ADVERTISED MORE - LOTS MORE COULD HAVE KNOWN.
ACHIEVEMENTS OF UPA GOVT IN TWO YEARS........
PLEASEEEEEEEEEE READ THIS
Friends,
Is this just the reservations that are bringing our Nationalism out today or is there something deep rooted within us since long that wants to come out. Isn't something simmering on since long enough thats talking this all. Isn't that, we, in our own country feel persued, prosecuted, being denied the right things. Politicians making a mokery of the system to suit their needs. Even after paying our taxes sincerely, we can't even get a proper electric/water supply and we claim to be on the threshold of modern age.
Just read my post which I wanted to share with all my nationalist brothers and sisters.
Let me remind you some of the events that took place since this UPA Govt has assumed office:
1. Removing Anupam Kher unceremoniously as the Censor Board chairman. He was branded RSS man by Lefties? Is that democratic?
2. Removing NDA appointed Governors just after assuming Govt.
3. Re-writing history books. - Long live the Arjun, who is doing a Duryodhan's job, so that you only get the perspective they want you to know. Btw, if you are not aware, most of historians in the panels that draft history books are patrons of Left parties.
4. Union Cabinet minister gone underground - Shibu Sorent has murder charges and FIR pending. Imagine a cabinet level minister gone missing. These are the kind of people who make laws for us?
5. Democratically elected Goa State Govt is made scapegoat and thrown out by cheating by Governor/Centre.
6. Bihar election results are declared null and void by Governor Buta Singh and see what Supreme court delivered on it. Still this man took the salute on 26 Jan, which is a shame for us. Tax payers like you and me bear the 200 crore cost of unwanted election.
7. Natwar Singh, Sonia Gandhi are named beneficiary in Oil for Food bribe scam by UN's Volkers report. Natwar gone, she is still in there as the chairperson for the remote controlled PM. The commission set up to probe it will never be complete.
8. Bofors- The guns that will never fall silent. - Mr Q in Italy is helped by Ms Gandhi to get away with millions of Tax payers money stached away in UK banks and how they make us believe that it was CBI that did this and the Law minsister, Ms Gandhi and PM knew nothing. Can you buy this argument.?
9. Reservation for Muslims in AP. High court, Supreme court came down heavily on the Govt. Still they are finding out ways to get around this and continue appeasement policy. Are they secular..? Btw, OBC reservations do cover muslims and Dalit christians? Why they converted to Christianity, if they still wanted a Dalit tag?
10. Minority status for AMU. Even after receiving hammering from Supreme Court. The recent AICC convention has shown how the Govt is defiant in taking in the ruling and is still going ahead with its plans.
11. Bangladesh in Assam - The demographics of the state has changed virtually with the unabated influx of Bangladeshi's. The supreme court scrapped the IMTD act (Applicable in Assam only) - which allowed free home to Bangladeshi. Now with that act gone, the central Govt is setting in a tribunal under Foreigners Act to allow people to prove that they are not foreigners. How difficult is it to get a ration card in India..?? Rs 500-1000. Thats the way the Govt is planning to allow these people to stay in Assam and make one more Kashmir for us.
12. The Govt. tinkered with the idea of compiling data on Muslims in Army. About their field positions, social background and other such info. Isn't it making tasks simpler for likes of ISI. They will get a compiled report. Armed forces so far have been apolitical and based on merit.
13. Scorpene Submarine Scandal - Known commission is to the tune of 800 crore. Could we not have more IIM's, IIT's and AIIMS with the whole deals money which is Rs 18,500 crore? Do we need submarines or more schools/colleges? Ironically, it may end up in yet another schools scam.
14. Office of Profit - Did we want a re-election in Rae-Bareily? Why is our hard earned money wasted on such events. Madam Gandhi started this by targeting Jaya Bacchan and when she saw fire engulfing her, she became socalled ""Supreme"" by Sacrificing her MP seat, just to re-enter parliament wasting tax payers money and what happened to the Office of Profilt thing. Simple, the Govt just modified constitution to suit their needs. Exclude all such posts that UPA ministers/MP's are holding. Is this not killing the constitution and using parliament to suit their own needs. - Be it Congress, "Moral High" Lefties or BJP's
15. Delhi Demolitions - MCD/Politicians collude with builders - allow rampant violations of Land use. Shut their eyes on illegal constructions mushrooming all over Delhi. When the High court goes after the illegal encroachments/buildings, Our honourable MP's (ALL OF THEM) pass a bill putting demolitions on hold. Are they doing Public service or dis-service??
16. Mandal - II - We all know what this is all about. Driving a wedge between society. Govt could not get reservations for muslims, "Dalit Christians" and ofcourse their OBC vote bank. Who is benefiting by this reservations? People in AP, Maharashtra, Orrisa are committing suicide because they can't support their families. Can they afford lacs of rupees as fee for IIM's and AIIMS? Its the creamy effluent layer in OBC's that is benefitted by this policy.
Btw, remember the previous Congress Govt..? Narisimha Rao. Some of their achievements
- Security Scam/ Harshad Mehta
- JMM bribery case for saving Govt in parliament. (Shibu Soren)
- St Kitts Forgery case (Lakhu Bhai Pathak)
- Sugar Scam
- Coal Scam
- Urea Scam
- UTI scam
- Petrol Pump Allocation Scam
This is what I could gather from my short memory. Almost every ministry had a scam to its credit and even the PM was not spared. Accused by Harshad Mehta and Lakhu Bhai for having received money. The scams during that period were to the tune of Rs 1300 crore (including the famous Laloo Fodder Scam) and where are we today..? Nothing happened. Just commissions constituted, with no outcome. Was even a single politician prosecuted.
This is the report card of the UPA Govt in just over two year. Imagine what Congress has been doing around for past 50 years it has ruled India. Its just that now we have these mediums to share our thoughts and view points.
Thats why we need movie's like RDB to rekindle our senses and make us stir up our lost memories about freedom fighters other than the Nehru/Gandhi Parivaar and before another Gandhi (rahul) is super-imposed on to this nation. We need to get up..
Was wondering whom the newly developed airports would be named after.. Which Gandhi this time..??
Please think brothers.. The English left shores 60 years back, but they left the Italians and Congress for us to deal with. Think....!! Help this nation rid itself from dynasty rules, corrupt politicians and people with ideologies which are regressive for the nation (Left parties). The Left parties which today claim to represent the poor lot have their masters in China. If anyone remembers, these are the same people who were busy raising funds for China during the 1962 Indo-China war.
Keep this list updated by adding where ever the Govt falters and read it before you go out to vote next time.
PLEASE VOTE - thats the only way we can bring in about changes, if not by jumping into the world of politics.
PLEASE CIRCULATE AMONG YOUR FRIENDS/FAMILY - PLEASE DO SO
If you cant email it, print it and hand it out to people
Cheers Pals
JAI HIND
Yuva Udaay..
Bharat Udaay..
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DISCLAIMER
Im not a political activist or belonging to any party. Im just a fellow citizen who keenly observes political developments in India and is as saddened by the events as would be any fellow patriot. If you and me dont do this, are we expecting others to do it for us.
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Is it true that a medical student
Subhash Shrivastav(AIIMS)died of hunger strike, pls confirm.
whts da deal in the south? 5/21/2006 3:27 PM
im a medical student from chennai studyin in a private clge and the lack of response in my city disgusts me.1 reason could be that since already 69% reservation is implemented here most students in all clges have come thro reservation n they obsyly wont b against it.but this kinda selfish i dun give a shit abt my country attitude scares me....
unfortunately tamil nadu is the future of india if this new reservation comes in2 force.n leme tell u ppl sayin reservation has wrked in tn are simply put-lying.it is one of the states most divided on caste lines.caste based politics is rampant n discrimination occurs at every possible level.its a myth dat reservation has wrked...it has only sharpely divided the society futher on archaiac caste lines.
n its not surprising that official figures say chennai has the highest no. of gratuades leavin to the us...n again its no shock that the line outside the american councellate is ever growin...the so called upper caste are outcastes in their own states n they have to leave their country to be able 2 fulfil their potential.
il jus like to say jus cuz i belong to da so called upper class upper caste section doesnt mean that this country belongs to me any less n vice versa,its painz me to see any citizen of this country treated as 2nd class,this kinda reverse discrimination is 1ly goina create more strife and a vicious cycle where different sectionz feel victamised alternatively.
but unfortunately an unhappily n angry electorate is wht all politicianz are looking for n we cant let them win!
FOLLOWING ARE MORE SUGGESTIONS
1.ASK PEOPLE TO BLOCK THE TRAFFIC FOR 10 MINS AT 9 AM IN ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN ALL CITIES IT CAN GIVE GOVT VISIBILITY OF THE SUPPORT.
2. CALL BBC AND CNN TO COVER ALL THE AGITATIONS
Will join in. Pl. announce one more way
of protest (like black badges with R and
a cross through it etc.) taking care of the foll.
1)The form of protest must be unambiguous. 2)Its connection to your announcement should appear obvious.
3)It should be easily creatable and displayable by anyone.
I repeat that the sign must appear
linked to your announcement.
Sincerely,
S
I fully agree with Mona please launch a website and register a society where we can support you financialy from USA in fact others from overseas. It is very important at this point to include all other colleges not just medical.Remember medical service is very important for the society so if this strike is prolonged it will loose its strength as the patients and relatives will get against the movement. Before that happens think about running the emergency services with appointed doctors in rotation before the pro reservation cash this situtation. we all are with you. If the student leaders can get the copy of original constitution and show that to every one . It was proposed for a fixed time frame and that time is already passed.
Remember the calculation which govt is proposing . For example you have 100 seats 50% reserved which is 50 to each group now if the seats are increased for example 150 in that case 75 seats to both groups . look at this situtation there is significant increase in reservation seats because the way population is increasing the seats should be increased any way and if that is done than there is no need to increase the reservation as reserved seats will increse automatically with total increase in the number of seats. All youth are same at professional level and the competetion should be fair. The new poilicy can be a cut off percentage for getting admission in professional colleges beyond any reservation for anyone. How many reserved candidates who score good in merit apply in open quota , you can find many but can you find anyone from open quota applying for a seat in reserved category.
Open competetion is what India needs now. have national central exams for all professional courses and decide the cutoff . this cuttoff should be the prerequsite for admission because this will decide whether you are worth for the profession or not. now above this cutoff see how many reserve candidates are there and than priority can be given to the reserved class who are above the cuttoff and according to there quota. If it is not filled up than it goes in open quota.
Just go through this link and see how Karan Thapar has screwed Arjun Singh
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/decision-on-quota-is-final-the-chapter-is-closed/11063-4.html
We will make them to kneel down
Are you guys fighting against 'reservation' or 'reservation for OBCs'?
Are you protesting reservation for SC/ST as well??
hey guys,there r anti-resrvation stir happening thru out the country,but the campaigns goin on in smaller cities arent causing much of an impact due 2 lack of media coverage.
I THINK THEY SHUD UNITE,,AND CAMPAIGN ON STATE LEVEL IN IMPORTANT CITIES OF THAT VRY STATE RATHER THAN DOIN IT INDIVIDUALLY,,this wud create a better impact and will get more of a media coverage
I think this government needs some kind of bang. They are not going to do anything. They are doing this only for their vote bank. They thought that these kinds of things are very common in politics but this time we are not going to slow down and will go till we won.......
We have to bang them....anyhow
Does Any one remember tiananmen square of china...if not...find out...You need to act like them..no satyagrah can do any good to you..satyagrah is for those who have no desire to live...if you want to live..make things grand...move to delhi...block roads there..in huge nos. and by jove...this govt needs to open hear ears and to open them...you need to blow your trumpets real loud!!
these people(arjun and co.)have got insane and need to be sent to the mental asylum. they claim to be true congress people but do they know that jawahar lal nehru and rajiv gandhi were strongly against reservations. all of them are above 70 and need to die now rather than ruin the future of the futyre og the nation.it seems that MAD DOGS not people are ruling our coountry.if they continue on their stand then the seats of the HRD and the PM should also be reserved for the OBCs/ST/SC."saale budhape mein satheiya gaye hain"
dear all ,
i have heard that one of the protesting student has sacrificed his life for sake of better future for us ...
media is not covering the same and bringing it across to people .
do we allow his sacrifice to go wasted ...
guy's let's vouch to fight until death ...
it's quaetion of our honour and equal status ...
w are being discriminated ..
GOD !! when will these ministers improve.
AWESOME interview by Karan Thapar ! Simply, Mind Blowing.
Arjun Singh doesnt know anything
and that he is the MOST DUMBEST MINISTER EVER in the history of indian politics !
i fully support you guys. dont let yourselves down !
Karan Thapar has screwed Arjun Singh
That obviously does not make an impact on that thick skinned pig called arjun singh. I would like to place a reward on his head. If anybody brings the upper part of his neck (used as head in other human beings), dead or alive, i will reward the guy, Rs. 3.50. Well, i know the price of his head is overrated, but anyway!
Guys ,As we are seeing that despite all our efforts and strikes govt is not even paying a heed , to this problem i can see only one solution --- Lets form a Party of our own , that sounds difficult and not a good way but we are left with this option only . Some of our friens are doin it in south (4IIT GUYS have formed a party LOK PARIDHAN in chennai and even faought elections) we can do the same and that too at national level . I am ready to be the first one in this but i need support . Guys thinkk about this and lemme knw my id is vineet2057@gmail.com
its good to show ur feelings this way, but u all shud hv thght before voting for this party earlier, just because of english meadias incorrect portrayal of gujrat, people outvoted Bajpayee and now see whats happening, incidents like gujrat hv hpnd earlier and will keep hppng they r just a speed breaker not an end of road like this reservation, any ways all the best switch off the lights if u r lucky enuf to hv power that time ;-)
While the UPA celebrates its two years in power,my brethern at the central lawn,AIIMS are only stregthening their resolve to get the quotq demons out of the system.Let us black out the quota raj from the face of india once and for all.
i propose a few other reservations (although I never knew OBCs were ever discriminated against).
Since there is mutual discrimination among north and south indians, I propose reservation for north Indians in south India and for south indians in north india.
Since the north east has been discriminated against, let us have reservation in the rest of india for north-eastern people. And vice versa.
Since mumbaikars discriminate against non-mumbaikars, we should have reservation for non-mumbaikars in mumbai / maharashtra. Ditto for kolkata / WB - let's have reservation for non-bengalis in west bengal.
Since Kashmir has discriminated aginst pandits, let us have reservation for pandits in Kashmir.
Since villagers are discriminated against in cities, let us have reservations for villagers in cities.
Since we have been discriminated against by the British during their rule, let us also ask for reservations for Indians in the UK. As far as the discrimination under muslim rule is concerned, let us ask for reservations for indians in countries like Afghanistan and Iran as well. For fairness' sake, let us also include France and Portugal.
Please think of some other reservations also that are liable to bring 'equality' and end 'discrimination' in the world.
Kaushik Das
Everyone please sign the petition at following link:
http://www.petitiononline.com/arb06/petition.html
Thanks!
i totally agree with ur stand and will inform all my collegues in SMS medical college jaipur too.
isnt it such a wonder that the highly educated and 'ignited mind' of our president refuses to take a stand on this issue?
hey guys we r talkin about pple to gather and all with us.. todays mornin fact in my own area , none of them new about black day today .. i have sms this mesage to ple i knew and also today i told whomsoever i met....... guys get in to press. anounce daily wat u r doin today . print pamphletes and let it go to everyone s house with newspaper....... pple arent aware of charter of demands and neither of this black day today ....... we need to gather the mass . i repeat 5000 were not enough to wake upp sleeping politician in parliament.................. plz plzz do get goin ..u shuld make general public aware of wat r we doinn....... even bhaghat singh got himself arrested so tat he can appeal to pple of india and get the message across... get press conference and ask them to print charter of demands and daily activity so tat population of india comes to know wat is youth for equality and wat is it fightin for ...........
Dear Friends,
Yesterday I joined a rally in Pune.Some guys were distributing pamphlets which gave me this blog address.
I want to mention that I was not very much impressed with the energy level of the people.Around half of the people were appealing to the other half that we should be silent and not shout out slogans.The rally came to an abrupt end without any discussions taking place.
Guys I want to say that if we dont extend the boundaries (Here i dont mean break them) I dont think we are violating any rules.
We must be more enthusiastic and determined to thwart away the evil face of reservation that is creeping into our education system.
I hereby appeal to each and everyone....PLEASE UNITE AND APPEAL AGAINST THE RESERVATIONS.
UNITED WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
TOGETHER WE CAN AND WE WILL PREVAIL.....
JAI HIND.
Respected doctors
please dont be so adamant on your stands because the manner in which you are organizing the anti-reservation stir will actually lead to hardening of the opposition also.
India does not constitute of doctors alone there are hundreds and thousands of people, who are biding their time, so the issue gets resolved peacefully.
The govt has also agreed that the general seats wont be affected, than what is the problem.
Does this mean that upper castes want to maintain a monopoly on these elite professions.
Please see the other side of the story and go beyond the entire merit debate.
The OBCs and backward castes are dismayed with the kind of behaviour put on display.
If the medicos refuse to see reason than it very likely that lower caste people would also come on street. And mind you when this happens than a mindless blood bath is ensured.
Arjun singh is divided this country.
Respected doctors
please dont be so adamant on your stands because the manner in which you are organizing the anti-reservation stir will actually lead to hardening of the opposition also.
India does not constitute of doctors alone there are hundreds and thousands of people, who are biding their time, so the issue gets resolved peacefully.
The govt has also agreed that the general seats wont be affected, than what is the problem.
Does this mean that upper castes want to maintain a monopoly on these elite professions.
Please see the other side of the story and go beyond the entire merit debate.
The OBCs and backward castes are dismayed with the kind of behaviour put on display.
If the medicos refuse to see reason than it very likely that lower caste people would also come on street. And mind you when this happens than a mindless blood bath is ensured.
after this they r gonna implement reservation in pvt schools, then pvt sector, then movies and then cricket team, u will soon see indian team playing with 9 guys as 2 posts were reserved for obc and cud not be filled. Shahruk and Amir are OBCs so they dont hv any problem but good actors are gonna find life a bit tough as now there wud be quota in each movie, they r even going to constitute first reserved regiment to be posted in kashmir, their band wont hv any musical instruments only cherry blossom and some brushes......
The whole nation sat in front of the TV sets viewing the
atrocities being perpetrated upon both the life-saving, service-oriented
medical community & against the humanity in general. We have seen how
the general public in need of urgent medical help was suffering due to
the strike. We have seen how the parents of one child named Saleem,
being in dire need of professional help were helplessly getting
frustrated.
We, as a nation need to address this issue urgently. Just how long can a
professional community bear the brunt of meaningless govt policies just
because it's supposed to be on toes at all time, it being an essential
services community? We, the public at large, need to
come out against the govt's shameless reservation policies lest
innumerable Saleems' would face imminent death at the hands of
sub-standard medical professionals.
Or does the govt wants some action by the youth of this
Rang De Basanti generation?
The whole nation sat in front of the TV sets viewing the
atrocities being perpetrated upon both the life-saving, service-oriented
medical community & against the humanity in general. We have seen how
the general public in need of urgent medical help was suffering due to
the strike. We have seen how the parents of one child named Saleem,
being in dire need of professional help were helplessly getting
frustrated.
We, as a nation need to address this issue urgently. Just how long can a
professional community bear the brunt of meaningless govt policies just
because it's supposed to be on toes at all time, it being an essential
services community? We, the public at large, need to
come out against the govt's shameless reservation policies lest
innumerable Saleems' would face imminent death at the hands of
sub-standard medical professionals.
Or does the govt wants some action by the youth of this
Rang De Basanti generation?
What do we actually do? they have asked us to vacate the hostels. many of us are losing courage to go ahead. moreover, our teachers are also wavering. please post the developments in the field so that we get direction.
all who supports reservation shud from now on whenever go to a hospital look for doctors from lower caste, they will be pleased to undergo heart transplant for what they thought was flu........
let us fight against the private medical colleges which take lakhs to admit us for a course. LET MERIT PREVAIL IN ALL AREAS NOT JUST IN RESERVATION!
I am posting a article i found on the net which will enlighten the doctors and make them realize that it is better to be flexible.
Bahujans ready for street battle
OUR CORRESPONDENT
Bangalore: Upper caste medical college students, who have grown fat on our sweat and blood, have come to the street to fight our human rights (reservations).
Their opposition to reservations to Backward Castes in higher education remind us the 1991 violent anti-Mandal war and violence launched by the same well-fed forces in Delhi.
Editor’s house attacked: Our Editor had just then shifted to Delhi, taken up a rented flat in Vasant Vihar and started publishing DV when Prime Minister V.P. Singh suddenly announced implementation of the Mandal Commission Report. That triggered student violence. It began in Delhi University, and spread to JNU where the Dalit students became the target.
Though Mandal report had nothing to do with Dalits but only BCs, the victims of upper caste violence were the Dalits— not BCs.
Four JNU Dalit students had taken shelter in his flat and that made the upper caste students to attack the Editor’s house. Doors were broken open, and DV and books were thrown out.
The Editor was not in the flat. When he came in the night, doors were wide open and the upper caste neighbours were enjoying his agony.
“National” newspapers, however, put out false reports, a self-immolation was staged by pushing a BC boy into a fire lit opposite the All-India Inst. of Medical Sciences junction.
There was curfew. The whole of Delhi was forcibly closed down.
Dalits defend Mandal:
The upper castes were on the rampage. The Central Govt. itself became helpless. The artificially manufactured upper caste agitation brought down the V.P. Singh Govt. itself.
And in disgust and sheer helplessness, the Editor wound up his office after suffering over Rs. 1 lakh loss and went back to Bangalore as he could not bring out DV which was burnt in the JNU Campus.
The beauty of the whole drama was though the Mandal was to benefit the BCs they only attacked the Dalits at the instigation of upper castes.
But it was the Dalits who fought back and defended the Mandal report. It was the Dalits who suffered for the BCs.
Hate as staple food:
The BCs were sleeping. The vigilant and cunning Brahminical people took advantage of the BC weakness and made BCs to attack Dalits. And thus they succeeded in making brothers fight brothers.
In the latest anti-BC agitation by the upper caste boys and girls, once again the BCs are mum.
Instead of holding rallies in support of Arjun Singh and taking the upper caste boys head on, there is total silence on the part of BCs as this is written. We want to impress upon the BCs that they cannot win their human rights without fighting, suffering, dying and sacrificing.
Dalits will definitely come in support of BCs though BCs never supported us in our struggle.
India’s road to social justice is only through caste war. The upper castes hate us only because of our caste. Such a caste hatred is centuries old.
In spite of Western education they continue to live in their little world where their staple food is hate. So we cannot expect them to change.
In fact the more educated are more aggressive and more violent.
BCs have to get ready for the caste war and the Dalits will be ever ready to support them. The upper castes have to be confronted and countered.
Both in population and our physical strength, we can finish them.
Justice and Truth are on our side. And we have nothing to fear. What we lack is imagination, proper strategies and tactics.
In the coming days there will be more violence and we should be ready for street battles.
we should ask govt why there is no reservation in army and other armed forces ?
after all if govt see reservation as only mean of upliftment of weaker section then there should be reservation in N.D.A and I.M.A.
also.
why is govt not ready to take 50%
of officers in army from weaker section ?
answer is because govt cannot compromise with nations defence
but this same govt is ready to compromise with lives of general public by reserving seats in hi
gher education.
I got a message that "Subhash shrivastav (AIIMS Student ), has died b cos of hunger strike protesting against reservation & media is not covering it." Is this correct????
The idea of a Public Interest Litigation
(PIL) someone proposed is long term and
effective. That does not mean we do not
continue with these protests.
PIL is a legally accepted way
of bringing the government to task. If
the government has sat of things for the past 30-40 years, then it cannot pass the
buck onto any collective protest and related matters. I suggest that the PIL be based on the government encouraging casteism which is banned by our constitution. Hit the rascal point blank so that doing it once would be
sufficient....for eliminating the rascal.
Dear all,
If you dont get the desired reaction from indian politicians dont forget that the International court of justice exists for cases such as this
All the best
A sympathiser and victim
QUESTION TO MINE GURUJI
You say BC
attacked Sc
attacked ST
at the Instigation of UC
to deprive OBC ...
Can you identify all these in a crowd of people ?
Is it just another story or is it truth.
If it is a story , then there will be many other stories that'll counter this.
If it is a truth , then the time has come that we got rid of these nomenclature.
i am a house wife i totally support anti reservation.for the future of our country.
we will all switch off our lights and tv in ur support am trying to gather support as much as i can.
Let us come up with a single sign which
says "No reservation". Easily reproducible
and unambiguous.
Sincerely
Any protest in the city of Pune? I will
join it after work today.
Sincerely
doctors on hunger strike-96hrs-94 studentscollapsed .
Why do children of IAS officers [belonging to BC/SC/ST/OBC] need Reservations? Someone less priveileged can avail higher education through seats usurped by these elite class.
HRD Minister means Human Resources Destruction Minister
all reservations for CREAMY LAYER should be abolished immediately
Make all Education Free [No Fees] for OBC. But please do not keep reservations.
After availing Reservation once the person should be classed as General Category. That way there will be room for the others.
Can we swamp the President's website with
pleas?
RESERVATION KO YAKKA
MERIT KO DHAKKA
SHAME ON MANMOHAN GOVT.
YAKKA MEANS 1ST POSITION
please lemme know of ne protest in mumbai
WAHA RI RAJNEETI !!!!
85% WALA MITTI KHODEGA
45% WALA SAMMANIT PAD KA BHAGIDAR HOGA ????
INDIA MOVING BACKWARDS !!!!
WAKE UP YOUNG MEN...........
Apni Aazadi ko hum hargiz bula sakte nahi..
Sar kataa sakte hain lekin, Sar jukha saktee nahi..
*****************************
Private sector reservations are following...
Get your act together, IT NOW OR NEVER....
CREATE A MAIL GROUP
CREATE A WEBSITE
REGISTER YFE SOCIETY
GIVE YOUR ACCOUNT DETAILS
Don't worry if you are thrown out of hostels, everyone's doors are open for you..
PLEASE HIGHLIGHT THIS AS A WAR AGAINST PROMOTING CASTEISM and NOT AGAINST OBC's..
Get the REAL DEPRIVED OBC's on your side...
EDUCATE THE REAL OBC's - They are our real strength...!!
Here is where you can write to president. How if we do something like keeping the subject line as follows?
From a member of YouthForEquality [RESERVATION-ISSUE: Text you want to put here]
here is the link.
http://presidentofindia.nic.in/scripts/writetopresident.jsp
LAUGHT OUT LOUD,
The Hindu Newspaper, May 22, back page
MIND BLOWING
New Delhi:
" I have a Bomb on my mind",
An Italian woman told her co passenger onboard the Indian Airlines flight to Ahmedabad on sunday, leading to immediate evacuation of the aircraft that had several high profile travellers.
" The woman was under immense tension due to her medical condition and muttered the words to her curious co-passenger, who suspected something fishy due to her tense brows."
---
Well ...welll now we know..
The Italian woman was Sonia Gandhi...Her copassenger Manmohan Singh, the flight India, and the travellers the hapless citizens of the country.
Congress....to the waste-bin with it!
We wholly support u YFE. Thanks for starting this movement. Everybody against reservation was angry by the govt's decision but thanks to u, we have found an outlet to express it. Let us blackout reservations forever!
Okay....where is the next protest
being held in Pune? I also want to chip in
an equivalent of a mid day meal (Rs 25)
as a token gesture for those officially thrown out of the hostels. Care to join in?
As expected the people in the government have already started raising there voice for reservation in Private sector. This link has the detailed story.
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/india-inc-has-2-yrs-for-quota-centre/11099-3.html
According to this story the Government is planning to give private sector a 2yrs time to introduce voluntary Quota or face the law.
I think now the time has come that this government should go. They are hell bent on dividing this country.
What kind of social justice are they talking about? In spite of being in power for the most part of post independence India this government still cannot provide quality primary education. The state of primary schools in India is known to all.
bringing the govt. down is not the idea,
Youth for Equality is and shall remain a non political organisation.
"hi all u ladies n gentlemen,plz do something to avert the crisis of reservation and its after effects on our MOTHERLAND.i participated in a rally of 'YOUTH FOR EQUALITY' IN PUNE ON 21ST MAY,DESPITE MY EXAM BEING 10 DAYS AWAY...2 HRS OF UR PRESENCE THERE IS FAR GREATER THAN UR GOSSIP PROTESTS.CAN'T U SUPPORT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN FASTING FOR THE LAST 9 DAYS THERE IN AIIMS,DELHI???IF U GIVE LAME EXCUSES,ITS A REAL SHAME ON U,WHICH CLEARLY SHOWS THE IMPOTENCY OF UR CONSCIENCE."
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Here is where you can write to president. How if we do something like keeping the subject line as follows?
From a member of YouthForEquality [RESERVATION-ISSUE: Text you want to put here]
here is the link.
http://presidentofindia.nic.in/scripts/writetopresident (dot) jsp
Yes. Pl. invite the BBC. Explain
that the East India Company did exploit
religion in India, but the Congress is
smarter and exploits caste which
is a subtler social identity.
sure..is there protest in mumbai.
Friend from Pune.
since we find it difficult to send money to AIIMS.
How about offering some food to the beggars and destitues that we everyday encounter, and take time to talk to them and understand their perspective of 'help'.
How about preparing a questionaire with some 4-6 options, and take their thumb impression, on what they feel .
I am sure some good will come out of it.
this has to be done and i will encourage all those i can contact to do this.
This government needs to be brought down at any cost. Are we living in a communist regime or is it British Raj with the policy of divide and rule. Arjun Singh thinks that he can bring us down?? if he does he is a bloody fool. This might be a jumbo congress ministry but they dont know the strength of the youths. If they get to our nerves they would have to lick dust.
How can we forget that last time also with the support of congress the recommendations of Mandal commision was passed. We wont let it happen this time, certainly not. Let us warn this government that they cannot DIVIDE the youth of India, never except their dreams
Since the attempt by Arjun is to take us back to the dark days, it is apt that we take the first step by switching off the lights for sometime.
I will relay this message to my followers as well.
Guru Beau Peep is with you folks.
"no reservation".... we 'NON-MEDICOS' too are with you...
We are in the US,but we thoroughly support the cause!!
Could we contribute through donations?
Practically speaking all the pro-reservation protests are politically backed,so we need to organise and get at par!!
PLEASE MAKE A PROVISION SO THAT WE COULD DO OUR BIT BY DONATIONS
!!WE ARE WITH YOU ALL!!
Dr.Kuldeep Singh Sidhu
USA
It's distgusting to see even a small reaction to all this in TN, which's having 69% reservation. It's touted by all politicos that it has worked well in TN, infact it has ruined the state to its max.
Reservation in TN has only served as a deterrent to 5% uppercastes in that state from getting all opportunities.
keep the gud work going....we all are with you guys
CHOKE ALL MEDIA CHANNEL'S AND NEWSPAPERS POSTS AND INBOX WITH MAIL'S SAYING THAT WE ARE FOR 50% RESERVATIONS FOR EDITORS, JOURNALISTS AND REPORTERS.
MEDIA SHOULD TAKE PART IN SOCIAL UPLIFTMENT AND SO ON........
THAT IS BOUND TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL MEDIA CHANNELS AND NEWSPAPERS ONLY AIR RIGHT VIEWS AGAINST RESERVATIONS AND ARE RELUCTANT TO AIR ANY PRORESERVATION VIEWS.....
TO ALL THOSE LIVING OUTSIDE INDIA
SEND LETTERS TO ALL INDIAN EMBASSIES AND GET YOUR PROTEST REGISTERED.
I strongly feel that this protest against reservation shud take many folds otherwise its going to kill n number of deserving candidiates. I fail to understand why does intelligence/competence needs to be supported this way ?? If they have the guts and feel that they are any day better and can do better why not they compete in normal trend and proove themselves. Now they are forcing us to discriminate on grounds of caste and trying to have sympathetic approach towards success. "C....... ! DUM HAI TO UTTRO MAIDAN MEIN AUR KHEL KE DIKHAO".
hey people of india .....WAKE UP NOW........... an appeal to govt of india and president from IIT ians delhi to commit suicide ... two chiefs of knowledge society gives resignation.......... if tats wat govt wants, i appeal to all professors in govtment institute to give mass resignation............. i saw on indian express.com that they wrote about the charter of demands and black day tonight.. good.. also get this into prints........ all activites planned shuld b in news 24 hrs ago...... guys government and opposition wants to know how many of us r togather......... great to know pple publishin pampheltes about this site and events of youth for equality and distributin it ............... as market drops today by 1100 points and pple are stunned ,, just pay attention if we paralyse all medical facility in all over india at one go we can make a difference and get our points across...........but this site in each n every chatrooms ,, ffwd all events to be done to all ur frnds and addresses u know. send sms about events to organized by youth for equality.... I REPEAT PARALYSE THIS MEDICAL SERVICE ALL OVER INDIA...... GET IMA PRESIDENT AND TELL HIM TO TAKE DESCISION AND SHOW THEIR SUPPORT TO YOUTH FOR EQUALITY ..these youth for equality are ur future IMA .. do think ..
Hello friends, great work... Kudos..
By the way, i am a selfish, mean minded, bigoted forward caste member, and always doing "atyachaar" on poor backwards. yeah.
For my own selfish benefit, i must immigrate out of here, since I am not wanted here anymore. See, I am so bad, I am not worried about the plight of our poor BCs, I am worried only about myself. hahahaha...
I write to you on behalf of a movement called PRANAM..We believe in MANAV DHARM i.e. equality for all humanity. We are a group of youngsters that feel that if we desire TRANSFORMATION in all fields i.e. social, political, economic, spiritual etc WE i.e the YOUTH OF INDIA need to create a SECOND LINE of dedicated people willing to fight for TRUTH AND AGAINST IMPERFECTION...so the elders can be shown a mirror..
We believe in NATURAL LAW..and TRUTH - being and doing what you believe in,
LOVE- Unconditional above MINE AND THINE..
LIGHT - cutting ignorance and imperfection wherever prevalent.
We have been regularly going to AIIMS to be with our fasting bretheren..giving them spiritual strength...
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, OUR'S IS A FIGHT WHICH IS TO BE FOUGHT WITH THE BRAIN AS MUCH AS WITH THE BODY...POLITICIANS ARE CUNNING TO THE CORE...so LET'S NOT DEPLETE OURSELVES..
ALSO, IT IS TIME FOR ALL TO BE UNITED ESPECIALLY THE DOCTORS...LET NO ONE GO FOR THE INTERVIEWS THAT HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED IN THE NEWSPAPERS!
TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL...SATYAM EV JAYATE!
We also plead to those who are for reservation, especially the CREAMY LAYER, to always keep National Interest in mind, too much greed is against the good of the Nation ..
LET US NOT DIVIDE OURSELVES..
We should work to make sure that everyone gets equal education at the primary level, after which they can choose their career according to their potential..NO SPOON FEEDING!
As the Rig Ved says -
sam jyotisha jyoti
LET LIGHT ENHANCE LIGHT
Pranam
Anubhuti
the govt. thinks increasing the seats such that seats for general category stay fixed is an easy way out. we all pay taxes. more money is generated by the general category taxes. why then is the public money being used for only a particular section of the society?we all have equal rights on the infrastructure being developed. roads are not made only for the OBCs etc.
Hi i am a IT professional, let close the whole IT industry for one day.
Something for information
Students seek to commit suicide
New Delhi, PTI : A group of students from IIT Delhi on Sunday submitted a memorandum to the President seeking permission to commit suicide if reservation to OBCs in elite educational institutions is implemented.
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/may222006/index72792006522.asp
SHAME.......
SHAME.........
PM HAS TIME TO GO TO J&K TO TALK TO TERRORISTS BUT NO TIME FOR CONCERNED YOUTHS..
TIME WE ALSO TAKE TO GUNS
VINAASH KALE VIPREET BUDDHI
These guys should be in circus now.. seriously every statement is a laugh riot. PM looks educated only with his mouth shut. Ever noticed ?
I feel there is major improvement required in the education system of India. Apart from the quota thing i wish India should be quota free as soon as possible. The Education for economically weaker should be fully funded by Central Govt. We guys are paying so high taxes. Most of us guys posting here belong to middle segment of the society. Have all completed our studies in private schools and struggling hard to get into any of the govt colleges (MAMC, DCE, NSIT, AIIMS, HINDU, SOMAIYA, NITIE, IIT) why not amity or other pvt. universities. So Most important is to bring this point forward to bring a revolution in govt schools. If govt can bring such a drastic change in giving admission and scholarships to so called backward classes(which i dont prefer to seggregate). First motive should be to make education free. Promote Govt Schools. Pump in teachers. Keep check keep tracks on teachers and education standards. Free Books. Improved Libraries.
Also i heard the Finance Minister said yesterday the reservation thingworked in the south, so it will work there as well. This much atleast i have experienced in my life at 23 years of age that system is not a nut or a bolt or a RAM of PC which can be plugged everywhere and anywhere. Systems need to be customized according to the situations. They might need to be modulated on different frequency depending on region.
I have been tracking the whole issue closely on NDTV some one from IIM said open a new Reserved Category IIM. Phuleez We should not let this happen, we are not to promote castism, but to erase this word and make it history.
A suggestion:
Coming back to Education issue: Govt policy of Each one teach one doesnt seems to be working. I have not taught myself any underprivileged. A Major change is required in the whole education. Each one of us B.TEch. B.E, MBBS, B.A, B.Com, CA, MBA, B.Sc, M.Sc, MCA. to name any Graduate or Post Graduate Level course should have compulsory module to teach in some govt. school as assistants or trainee teachers.
Everyone who needs there degree have to teach in any of govt schools in there respective states.
Benefits:
1. Those places where there is lack of teacher every-year thousands and lakhs of people graduate so more teacher(though temporary ones)
2. Individual like me and you see the situation around hence i feel i would try to be more responsible Indian citizen.
3. Some pay should be there from govt. to these temporary teachers (stipend) which motivates them to work as a govt. trainee employee. There should be a certificate issued to every candidate without which degree shouldn’t be considered completed.
4. A individual who teaches obviously for those people who have some hesitation to give lectures and can improve interpersonal skills.
http://voiceagainstreservation.blogspot.com
bhai logo!
as govt is telling that general category goys interest will be taken into account.As Arjun singh says"guys who are agitating for reservation policy roll bak are also our kids we cant' do anything for their disinterest"
aur bhaiyo wat do u think abt people getting MBBS degree from private college only on the basis of money,and they build up a multifacility hospital also which accomodates best dr from premier institutes and that guy head them all..
to aap iske vare mein kuch khaenge?
bhaiyo aur bahano due to reservation many deprived families are finding their status in hindu society and according to a survey conducted by national human welfare commission most of poor belongs to obc and sc/st so giving them opprtunity through reservation is purely not a politics agenda..its towards the slogan of congress ka hath aam aadmi ke sath....i really appreciate the move of the UPA govt.
when govt. is giving these poor and deprived(socially and economically) to aap log inke pait per laat kyoun maarte ho?
bhanu pratap singh a scientist in indias premier research organization and an alumini of nit trichy.
Im a fellow IT pro...
and fully support a IT/Call Centre protest for a day...
Govt can't ignore a $50 Billion industry up in arms..!!
Just decide the day...
Lets also resolve on that day, NOT TO:
- Watch MOVIE's in theatres
- Visit Shopping malls
- Buy any merchendise
- Abstain from work
- Sing National Anthem at important traffic signals at peak hours
- Wear "I Support YFE" badges/ stickers on cars
Hey this is shameful
Taking KALAM's permission for suicide ?
Instead let us politely ask him to open his mouth.
Did he not talk to 1,00,000 children the year before he got elected ?
How are we going to achieve his Vision 2020 ?
Dear Mr. Bhanu Pratap Singh, the reason is simple. Equal opportunity for all does not mean that SC/ST/OBC candidates be denied of their entry in premier institutions. It just means they should compete with General category candidates for education. There is no question of "pet pe laat maarna" as you have suggested. It is just that a meritorious candidate should get the seat instead of non-meritorious candidate. If SC/ST/OBC candidates have merit in them, nobody can deny them, right? -NEO.
I am an engineer & I know what it feels like when an undeserving candidate SNATCHES your seat away. Even these idiots/politicians understand that but it is all bcoz of vote bank ! May they rot in hell....... We r with u. YFE forum ZINDABAD !!!!
our PM is only a papet without any back bone
Ok If we cannot realise KAlaam's Vision 2020 .
How about INdia Ignited ? or was it Ignited Minds ?
If there is any events in Pune plese let us know abt it
- Kalim (kalimahmedshaikh@yahoo.com)
Dear friends,
This is the time when we really need to stand up for a cause. Lets join hands now n give it our best try to stop our nation from being torn apart into castes and subcastes.
Forward this message to as many as u can. U never know which drop of water will be the final one to break open the dam.
Amit, SGPGI
Friends
on 21st may 2006, a group of 23 students from Delhi university, J.N.U.., and Professionals went to President's House and filed a petition appealing the president to allow themselves to end their lives in case this bill is implemented.
This is historic, it is first time in the world history when such a large group has requested " mercy - death" sanction from the state head.
we appeal all of you to read that appeal and if you feel the same , then please do forward similar requests to President of India.
21 May 2006
The Honorable President,
Republic of India
Respected First Citizen of India
Sub: Appeal for permission for mercy-killing of self
The "Reservation Policy", as being proposed by the Government of India, attempts to divide the people of India in name of caste. It puts a permanent deathblow to our dream of a unified India where all are equal. It also severely jeopardizes our future in terms of earning a rightful career and livelihood.
We want to emphasize that the government is obliged by constitution to not only protect our right to life, right to education and right to livelihood, but also the right to live with dignity.
Following the examples of the great builders of our nation, we have always learnt that a life without dignity is worse than death. With implementation of the proposed reservation policy, this hope of living with dignity will be destroyed forever.
Thus, we, as law-abiding citizens of India, seek your permission to allow us to end our lives through mercy-killing, in the event of implementation of the proposed reservation policy.
Thanking you,
Yours respectfully
The Undersigned
--
youth for justice
fight for your right
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Expose the Youth Congress...
Where are the Foreign educated Rahul Gandhi, Sachin Pilot, Scindia and Deora - who are claimed to be our future leaders and ofcourse being Gandhi - Future PM..!!
Pose questions to them. Make them speak..!!
BEST METHOD TO PROTEST IS AS SUGGESTED BY SOMEONE.........
JAM ONE TRAFFIC INTERSECTION FOR 5 MIN. SING NATIONAL ANTHEM AND THEN MOVE TO NEXT INTERSECTION.....
DO THIS FOR 5 TO 6 HOURS IN PRESENCE OF MEDIA......
This thing about the reservation working in the south is false. What happened in the south is discrimination and not reservation where only a very small section of the population was in the general category. Thanks to the rest of India this small section could be absorbed in institutions outside the states.
I strongly support the students movement across the country against the policy of reservation being forcefully introduced by the UPA government.We will not give up until this is stopped.If we do so it is as good as giving up the country and concept of India!
Balaji Sankarshanan
Microelectronics Engineer Canada,
Talking of rivers and dams i just visited the Narmada web site. Touching,
So pristine, feels real sad it'll all be over
Going through the interview I could only feel that he has only Government and Parliament as his shield to protect him against the stupid, orthodox decision he has taken.
He dint have answers to any of the questions. What sort of minister he is that he doesn't even have that much of farsightedness to judge as to how much time will be required for setting up new infrastructures and recruitments.
He is a bull headed fellow, adamant on his thoughts,
Taking it against his ego to rethink upon what he spoke.
If this thing happens to us, tomorrow any Tom Dick and Harry like him will
Come and start taking any useless decisions and hamper our very future.
Some people think uselessly from their less used minds to take useless decisions.
we appeal to the general public to come out in support of us to observe a black out by switching off all lights for 10 minutes from 8pm. We need your support in our agitation against caste based reservation.
i request to everybody SMS this to 10 people
NATIONAL ANTHEM IDEA... IS REALLY GREAT...
CONSIDERING:
IF SOMEONE DISTURBS YOU WHILE SINGING NATIONAL ANTHEM THAT PERSON IS ACTUALLY INSULTING THE ANTHEM AND IS SUBJECT TO PROSECUTION.
ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO STAND STILL WHILE SINGING NATIONAL ANTHEM OR WHILE A NATIONAL ANTHEM IS BEING SUNG.
GREAT IDEA TO NAIL THOSE POLICEMEN AND POLITICIANS...
The Congress-led UPA Government is completing two years in power today. The former Finance Minister (during NDA Government), Yashwant Sinha, always said that our country is in the grip of an economic depression but he forgot that students' depression can create a crisis worse than that. The NDA Government had to face the music in the year of 2004. When the Congress-led UPA Government came to power in 2004, we, the youths, were experiencing strange excitement and enthusiasm and were expecting that something is going to happen in the future. But our experience with the UPA Government has been rather negative. A bitter sense of humiliation, harassment and frustration has filled young people in the wake of the proposed reservation policy of the Central Government. The reservation policy being introduced by the Government is reminiscent of the British Raj aiming at dividing the country on caste and communal lines. Any movement against the injustice being meted out to meritorious students in the name of reservations is being suppressed by lathis and police might. Are we living in a democracy? The Hon'ble HRD Minister Arjun Singh has spoken that those who speak against reservations should abide by the Constitution. One must remind him that Constitution was being framed by the people and for the people. No Constitution deprives any movement for education and jobs solely on merit. Each citizen of this country has freedom of expression. There is a need for an open debate behind the rationale of enhancing reservation quotas and the injustice being meted out to merit. We acknowledge the right of the scheduled castes and scheduled tribes to be able to have access to formal education and development. But the Government, instead of equipping them with education, is hell bent on merely providing reservation quotas for the OBC/SC/STs. Many people belonging to "socalled" backward castes in villages do not have access to basic primary education, sanitation and skilful employment. They are still being discriminated while a privileged few who have the resources, take advantage of such reservation quotas and gain entry into government jobs or higher education. The Government should honestly think as to why no real upliftment of the backward castes has happened despite imposing reservations over the last 58 years. The above reservations instead of bridging the gap between the haves and have-nots is deepening the divide between them and is poisoning the secular fabric of our country by depriving certain meritorious students from higher education and jobs. The politicians cutting across all political lines, are not concerned with the equipping of the backward castes with basic primary education and ensuring a level playing field for them, but merely announce reservation quotas which benefit a privileged few and seem to have fulfilled their promise of caste upliftment. As the elections in India is decided on caste and communal lines, votebank politics ensures the continuance of reservation quotas and neglect of merit. This spells doom for an emerging vibrant India as it deprives the meritorious students from deciding India's future. It is these students from the fields of engineering, medical, management and science who are going to shape the future vision of our country and not our tainted politicians. Reservations does not even help an OBC/SC/ST student, as there is always be a question mark over his talent, howsoever educated he may be, because the society may look down upon him as being benefited from quotas.
Everyone should be given equal access to participate in a 100 metre race. However, before the beginning of the race, u cannot have one person near the finishing line, while leaving the other one behind. Reservation quotas are like participating in a Formula One race, where the OBCs, SCs and STs hold the pole position, while the others occupy the last positions. In such a case, there is always a question mark over the winner of the race. The Government is now keen on taking up reservations in private sector too. A day will come when even hawking zones will be demarcated along caste lines. So the very purpose of reservations instituted by the Architect of the constitution Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar for unifying the backward castes alongwith the others is being defeated and it encourages further caste bias and disharmony.
The peaceful movement being organized by the medical students cannot be ignored by the Government and suppressed by lathis. 'A small movement today can spark off a major revolution which will ensure a vibrant and developed India, where each person irrespective of caste, creed, religion and community will have access to basic primary education, drinking water, sanitation and academic development solely on merit. There shall be no misgivings and disharmony among today's youth in their endeavour to integrate the various sections of our society in a bid to develop an unified India.'
Let us support the cause of an unified India and say 'No' to reservations.
Yours faithfully,
Anjani K. Tiwari,
Cell.# +91 9891438539.
ALL OUR STRENGTH IS IN OUR UNION, ALL OUR DANGER IS IN DISCORD
BEST METHOD TO PROTEST IS AS SUGGESTED BY SOMEONE.........
JAM ONE TRAFFIC INTERSECTION FOR 5 MIN. SING NATIONAL ANTHEM AND THEN MOVE TO NEXT INTERSECTION.....
DO THIS FOR 5 TO 6 HOURS IN PRESENCE OF MEDIA......
hi...wil definitely do so..
STOP THIS NONSENSE OF TAKING PERMISSIONS FOR SUICIDE
IT IS STUPIDITY TO THE POWER OF COWARDICE..
AND WOT IF HE HAD GIVEN YOU THE PERMISSION..
WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THE SAME PETITION TO ARSON SINGH..
DON"T BE LIKE TODAY"S POLITICIANS WHIPPING UP FRENZY.. MAKING PROMISES THEY CAN NEVER KEEP..
PLEASE BOYCOTT PM'S ADDRESS TO THE NATION............
DO NOT WATCH IT
SWITH OF ALL YOUR LIGHTS AT 8 SHARP FOR 15 MIN.
Many of you may have read the following
interview of Arjun Singh by Karan
Thapar.. Interesting read for the ones
who have not read..
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/
decision-on-quota-is-final-arjun/
11063-4-0.html
and..
We pledge to travel from darkness to light
TAMSO MA JYOTIRGAMAYA
remember the prayer to Saraswati
Its a shame that the student community of Chennai is sleeping and not coming out in support of the all India protest.Do you all really belong as a part of India..If so just give a helping hand to those who are out in the streets not for them but for the future generation..
WAKE UP CHENNAI!!
Balaji Sankarshanan
i from kmc manipal wid many others support u guys
V HV ALSO PROTESTED BY ARRANGIN A RAILLY AGAINTS IT
KEEP IT UP
"mineguruji"...please realise that u do not have a brain which other human beings have....so shut ur trap.....u stink !!!
Stop all call centres, all hospitals, businesses for one day.
And do a mahayagya to atone for all the 'atyachaar' our ancestors committed 3000 yrs ago.
The fire shall spread to the whole world.
But I am more interested in Harvard calling up Manmohan and telling him ki boss apne paise wapas le jao ..and do not tell anyone that we ever taught you.
Hello Friends
I am tryuly happy for the kind of support people from all walks of life showing towards this movement initiated by the students. is this the time for the awakening of the nation ?
I have collected a few addresses and ask you all to start sending e-mails/letters to these addresses keeping the media addresses in copy.
I have already started this campaign and have mobilized many poeple who are sending letters to PMO. We are writing one Heading for all e-mails and letters
'I am against caste based reservation' and the subtext could be anything as you want.
here are the addresses
PMO
South Block, Raisina Hill,
New Delhi,India-110 011
1. Dr. A P J Abdul Kalam, President of India
(presidentofindia@rb.nic.in)
2. Dr. Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of India
(manmohan@sansad.nic.in)
3. Sri Buddhadeb Bhattacharya, Chief Minister of West Bengal
(cm@wb.gov.in)
4. Dr. Justice A S Anand, National Human Rights Commission
(chairnhrc@nic.in)
5. Justice Sri Shyamal Kumar Sen, Chairman, W B Human Rights Commission
(wbhrc@cal3.vsnl.net.in)
6. cnn-ibn news channel
editor@ibnlive.com
7 editorial hindustan times
letters@hindustantimes.com
with you all for a better India
nitin
...Harvard ne Manmohan ke paise waapas kiye...
...Harvard ne Manmohan ke paise waapas kiye...
...Harvard ne Manmohan ke paise waapas kiye...
...Harvard ne Manmohan ke paise waapas kiye...
I'm ahomemaker but my heart goes out to the injustice meted out by the indian govt. Ishall support the anti quota protests with all my might. We are in pune - How can we help? Today we shall shut off our lights at 8. If we can helpm ypu with funds do let us know the days of this govt. are numbered.
guys comments here are increasin .. i guess we are gainin by ciculatin this website and events to everyone we know..... in media its only times of express which has kept websote update wat about rest ....... anyway ALL SHULD boycott UPA GOVERNMENT REPORT CARD AT 8 PM ............BLACK DAY.......
Hats off to Karan Thapar..Mr Singh if you dont know the basic facts from your own Ministry Why are you there as a Minister..Also if everything is the will of the parliment(as proclaimed by the Honorable Minister) its must be rememberred that the very parliamnet is by the people of this nation and its they who are now saying no this proposal from every nook and corner of the country.It would be lot better if you can resign your MP seat and go to the people single handly and know their will on this issue by contesting and winning the election...very much in sync with the style of the High Command of your party..
Balaji Sankarshanan
Hi Friends, Sorry for giving you all a very bad news, it may be one of the worst news after the Independence. Subhash Srivastav an AIIMS student died at 6:44 pm on 20/05/2006, because of hunger strike protesting against reservation. Media is not allowed to cover it. Please pass this to all and help not to let down his sacrifice.....
i have recieved this fucking forwarded msg for the bloody 4th or 5th time...for God's sake stop these rumours...otherwise ppl will no more believe youthforequality and its fwded msges!!!
i appeal on these ffwded sms to get it cross checked and then ffwd them . they do more harm then any kind of benefit........ plz plz help the cause and not spoil it......
....that the very parliamnet is by the people of this nation and its they who are now saying no this proposal from every nook and corner of the country... WELL I ALSO BELIEVED SO THAT IN THIS COUNTRY, THERE IS DEMOCRACY; BY THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE. BUT IT SEEMS, IT IS: BY THE BACKWARDS, FOR THE BACKWARDS AND OF THE BACKWARDS.
IT IS HIGH TIME, BEFORE BACKWARDNESS TAKES OVER AND THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS TURNED INTO ONE BIG BIHAR, IT IS BETTER THE THE BACKWARDS SEPARTE OUT AND MAKE A MESS OF THEIR PORTION OF THE COUNTRY. IF THINGS CONTINUE THE WAY THESE POLITICIANS ARE ALLOWING IT TO CONTINUE, I SEE ANOTHER DIVISION OF THE COUNTRY, THIS TIME ON CAST LINES. GOD GRANT SOME SENSE TO THESE SINGHS SO THAT THEY RISE ABOVE THIS VOTE POLITICS AND SEE SENSE THAN THEIR VOTE BANKS; OR GIVE ME MY PORTION OF THE COUNTRY WHERE I CAN LIVE AS AN EQUAL, ABOVE BOUNDRIES OF CAST AND RELIGION.
how is a blackout going to help our cause?
It is just baseless & selfish movement. If you want to see real india, go to the adivasis area or any village. The backward people are leaving seperately from main village. These people are survivng under uppercasts like gulams. These are under huge pressure. they can not think even to admit their children in primary schools & you are the people saying that government should increase quality level of primary education. Government can't go every day every home to fetch the children for education. If you have gutts then start the movement "primary education for all for Equality". Not just start but work on it by leaving in villages. You will observe that the backward class people are too good for selfish people like you.
Thanking you,
Datta Tibile, Kolhapur
Hindu - Maratha.
Dear youth for equality West Bengal,
i appreciate that atleast you guys are sane enough to understand the voice of the opposition has to be listened.
Well, we are also listening to your arguments and many of these are well formed and informed opinions.
But, the major problem is that the media, which is unfortunately biased has not able to create a conducive debate and has tried to be more rhetorical than authentic as if it is fighting your battle rather than you guys.
Well, the way forward is to sit and discuss the matter but you can neither browbeat the government neither the backward castes.
It is agreed that incereasing the seats will put pressure on the already fragile education system but even than dont you think it will benefit thousands of your bretheren, who are backward caste. Even the general category seats will increase.
And i must also say sirs, that CASTE is a reality you can not wish away just by saying now that we dont believe in casteism.
Why do you guys suddenly feel that there should be no caste when ffor last hundred years there was no such demands.
Anyway thanks for being balanced as it very difficult to be so in such hyper times. Had the Indian media shown some sense, we might have been able to sit together and find a solution.
But, it now appears that the twains shall never meet.
hey guys!!
i am from a small town of punjab!!
WE SWITCHED OFF OUR MAIN ELECTRICITY SUPPLY!!
dear Aniket,
switching off lights will spread the message,and everybody body who feels for the cause can show a SYMBOLIC SOLIDARITY!!
Respected "MINEGURU JI"
You seem a very FAITHFUL BLOGGER here.
DO you have the guts to come out with your real name and email id?
Don't you think it would help better if you came out as a REAL PERSON FACING REALITIES rather than posting a zillion messages and still hiding behind that id!!
Besides,i think with all that knowledge that you apparently have about REALITIES and talking about going BEYOND THE MERIT DEBATE,let us face the fact that RESERVATIONS DO NOT HELP in the upliftment.GOOD PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION,GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES DO.
Arjun Singh et al,are NOT INTERESTED IN THE UPLIFTMENT OF OBCs.....IT IS VOTE-BANK POLITICS
and with all that DALITS WILL HELP BCs magnanimity of yours
please take note that i am an OBC aspiring for a seat in the PG after MBBS.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION.
Dr.Parampal Singh
param_singhdr@yahoo.co.in
please,could we have the switch-off lights for everyday!!!?
JAI HIND
We should also see to it that any SC/ST who has once availed the benifit of reservation once whould not be allowed to pass the benifits to his direct descendent like son/daughter or grandson/granddaughter. The next benifit should pass to someone else unprevilleged.
great aiims doctors we are looking at u wih all hopes, now u need to increase ur strength, govt is under immense pressure but listen dont feel disappointed if they dont listen to u. this happens if u continue like this they will submit, i m sure. pls dont quit continue ur agitation like this.the whole indian youth is with u.
category poeple should be given a power just like "veto power"..,in their life, they can avail this only once and if they use it for once, they cannot use this again and they will have those previleges which open cat. has
ARJUN SINGH.....SARDAAR INSAAN NAHI GADHA HAI......juz wana say....he suxx!!!!
hey....dats an amazing idea of singing NATIONAL ANTHEM!! I LOVE MY INDIA.....N CAN DO ANYTHING 4 IT!!WAT SAY PPL???LETS DO IT !!!I LOVE U GUYZ!!!........ITS SO NICE TO C U ALL...ACTUALY WORKIN 2WARDS OUR DUMB GOVERNMENT!!!
For the guys in YFE, people like me are starting a support campaign. I have blogged it on my site also
Here's the jist of it -
Most of us use a 2 wheeler or a car to go to office. I suggest switching on the headlights whenever you ride - its a signal that we are anti-reservations by the govt. in its current form. If you see another person riding with the headlights on - give them a 'hi'. My aim is to have people realize that there are a lot of more people supporting anti-quota reservations than what one sees in a rally - cause we may not know when the rally is or where , or may not be able to go due to some reason.
So, please pass on the message, and ride with your headlights on.
Death knows no reservations, so why should Life?
Its my message to those who wants reservation that "You cannot make anyone win a 100 meter sprint just by reserving his seat in final 10 no you cant because if it was possible then India would have suerly won 10 Gold Medals at Least in Olympics where as India hasnt won even a single in the event till date. I just want to say that there is no caste of Talent n Sprit. the people who have these qualities emerge as winner in adversest of situatuions. A clear example of this is Budhia Singh who is born to run. and there are many like him present in the far flung areas of India. India has many Sachins, Abdul Kalams ,Kalpna Chawla and many more.
i am also against caste based reservation.
Pritam Patil
In this 21st century where the communication mediums r
so fast and our govt is not taken any favourable
decision till now .many students goin weak. Now its
completin 2 weeks.
I condemn the govts decision. The police men were
chargin lathi on Doctors and medical students like
they r criminals.
Shame on them and they should be punished.
the blue shirt weared man was beatin very badly.
Goin back 55 years ago
I agree that they were affected but now if u r sayin
and increasin the quota , then the govt is failed to
make a healthy democracy .
Now everyone is same and should be treated same in all
categories, fields.
if one gets 30 rank and althuogh the reserved gets
1000 rank he'll also get admitted. how can he prove
his talency is there any match.
My opinion is in all fields like Engg , medical and
all ,the admission should b on merit basis.
I'm against the decision taken by Arjun Singh and
Manmohan singh..
Kya kare dono Sardarji jo thehere
Ek desh sardaraji chala raha hai
So i'm with all u students go ahead
if any help needed i'm there
Hopin for best from govt
Rebel has just started
= India's Vision..
NO Division
= India's Vision..
NO Division
do not miss this!!!
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/decision-on-quota-is-final-the-chapter-is-closed/11063-4.html
Arjun Singh's interview by Karan Thapar!!!
Act fast plllllll.
The Govt. has tabled another bill
Now onwards the following will be the caste order
Adidas employee = chamaar
Indian Oil = Telee
Mittal steel = Lohar
Mother Dairy = Gwala
MCD Bhangi ...
Act fast plllllll.
The Govt. has tabled another bill :
INDIA DIVISION 50:50
Now onwards the following will be the caste order
Adidas employee = chamaar
Indian Oil = Telee
Mittal steel = Lohar
Mother Dairy = Gwala
MCD Bhangi ...
Software engnrs, , Doctors will be Brahmans and therefore they must be slaughtered for their past sins.
The corporate India will be turned into a backward class.
The judiciary will be Jallad caste and execute any one who dares to oppose govt's noble designs
All the parliamentarians then will sit relaxed in the parliament on charpai and smoke HUKKA
One really fees anger, frustration and what not on seeing Arjun Singh on TV. Don't know what the hell he wants. I am sure he knows he is wrong but thez politicians ...................they r a blot on our society. Vote bank politics................ Why don'nt they provide free education etc. to the deserving ones instead of quotas. The parliamentary committee itself admits that the Govt is unaware of the exact no. of OBC's. Another report says that most of the backward claases do not continue education after primary school. And it's only the cremy layer which gets the undue benefit over the general students.Still the govt follows the policy of appeasement.
It's time folks we stand out & voice our opinion.
Really even a person of the stature of Manmohan Singh has to be silent spectator due to vote bank politics.
KUDOS TO AIIMS & OTHER DOCS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
WE R WITH U
KEEP IT UP
Today, the residents of Laxmi Bai Nagar, a colony near AIIMS showed thier support for the protest by switching off their lights at 8 p.m.
it was almost like a blackout.
It took one sms and two people to spread the word amongst 85 houses!
~Richa Bhardwaj.
Student of DU.
I strongly support the protest of these doctors.
It seems while congress has become heartless and useless even other parties have become dumb and deaf.
I suggest we should invite people from private firms and corporates as well to support and join hands for these types of protest.
These employees of private firms like Wipro, Infy, Reliance etc. support "youth for equality" and are angry with the treatment given to docs by govt.
They are also aware that If this foolish government can act in nazism way with these docs, then they will one day strike a blow at corporates as well some day.
The govt. claims it is pro poor
check these links
http://www.studentsforbhopal.org/
http://www.narmada.org/
and post your observations
Our PM has got time for talking to Terrorists in Kashmir but not for students..!!
Shame on him...
Just greet him with black banners when he goes to Kashmir on 24th
IT IS TIME TO COME ON STREET AND MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD TO THE DEAF EARS OF OUR leaders.
1 1 1 1 1
The markets hit Rock Bottom
UPA's 2nd birthday
India's stock market's Blackest day.
Sonia ........ Manmohan
Can't you see ...
THE RISING SUN
It is ONE..ONE..ONE..ONE..ONE
ONE INDIA NO DIVISION
ONE INDIA ONE VISION
1 1 1 1
The markets hit Rock Bottom
UPA's 2nd birthday
Indian stock market's Blackest day.
Sonia ........ Manmohan
Can't you see ...
THE RISING SUN
ONE..ONE..ONE..ONE
ONE INDIA NO DIVISION
ONE INDIA ONE VISION
heard that some docs who got under tension because of pressure form upa govt's cheap tricks!!i am in full support for our movement....is their any meeting sheduled for todat with govt people?any way all the best 4 'us'!!dr anil ,kerala
This reservation issue is really very critical . Just going to hunger strike or black out will not help to solve the problem. Our goverment in deft and dumb, we need to create dhamka or explosion which will make gov to look on otherwise gov is least concern.
Every citizen of INDIA should come forward to make impact and try to remove this reservation issue
I think that now time come to contact to Leading industry association like FICCI,CII etc and employes of pvt sector for getting support. They all are looking forward to support our movement so we should take initiative in this regards.
I think concept of reservation divides the society. India should get rid of reservation concept from all sectors.
We should have 0% reservation in jobs,education.
It is shameful that just for vested political interest our leaders have started playing divide and rule.
The day is not far off when a patient will first ask the surname of the doctor to confirm that he /she is not visisting a doctor belonging to SC/ST/OBC.
I really want the govenrment to stay firm on their ground for some more amount of time. Because if they do, I think not only the quota but the government will also have to go.
Look at what happend to King of Nepal who was trying to act as a dictator against the wishes of people. Now his nither king nor he has any power.
Yesterday UPA celebrated 2 years, here are some achivements
1. Selling of Nuclear Reactors to U.S.A, deffering of test of Agni2 missile for two years.
2. increasing price of every comodity while also introducing VAT, service tax and more taxes.
3.Breaking down so called illigal houses and closing down shops along with safegarding their own illigal properties.
4. introduing QUOTA for financially well but socially backward(OBC) people and dividing country.
Dear We invite you to present your view on current reservation policy,which is based on the caste.You are welcome in both cases whether you support current policy or oppose it.
Please answer these questions in your mail-
The reason behind reservation was to eliminate the caste system prevailing in India.
a) Do You think that current policy has succeded in doing so ?
b) Do you agree that you get knowledge of your friend's caste ony when you fills a form for entrance exams or governemnt job?
c) So do you now also agree that this reservation policy based on the caste will help to end the castes in indian society ? If yes then how?
Reservation Policy was to provide opportunity to backward classes(based on the castes) in the indian society.
a) Do you think that after 60 year of independence the backward society(based on caste) has benifited from this?
b) Is all sections of the OBC/SC/ST caste has benfited from this? Is in this classes only a division has occured while some are getting the whole benifits of the reservation while some get nothing.
Reservation was there to end the in-equality in indian society. So that there are no differences from one men to another in this scociety. a) Is there inequality on the basis of caste & relogion only ?
b) You don't think the greatest ineuality is on the basis of money only.A person belonging to any caste or religion if he/she is poor then he has to suffer most in every field.
Reservation has become the most mis-used tool by polticians of impelmenting the DIVIDE & RULE POLICY similar to British rule.
a) They are dividing us on the basis of caste & religions.
b) Actual problems of population,poverty,illetracy,corruption etc are being ignored.
Reservation nust be there but the policy must be changed.
a) Reservation must be on the basis of ECONOMIC PROSPERTY only,for all castes & relogions.
b) So that the division is not on the basis of caste & religion.
c) We support that the special privilage must be given to weaker section of society.But weaker means the econmically backward not the socially backward.
Do you not think that in cities the scoial inequality has ended?
a)You don't think that of which caste u'r friend is before making the freindship.Tell me yes or no.
b)You don't think that non-reservated section of society is being treated in simillar way as the jews were treated in Germany.Tell me yes or no.
SO FOR PROMTING THE EQUALITY IN THE INDIAN SOCIETY PLEASE RESPOND BACK WITH YOUR VALUABLE VIEWS.
Mail at: yfemeerut@gmail.com
Lets keep our focus on protesting against the reservation and not to list down what the UPS govt has done and what it failed to do.We would have protested if this reservation policy was introduceed by NDA govt,any govt for that matter.Our fight is aginast the policy,not against any particular political part,neither it is against our fellow citizens who belong to SC,ST or OBC
Hello,
This student protest under the banner of 'Youth For Equality' aims for quality education to the deserving meritorious candidates irrespective of their caste. The protest does not say anything about the competency of any particular caste in India. THIS IS NOT A PROTEST AGAINST ANY PARTICULAR CASTE. SO FAR THE POLITICIANS IN INDIA HAVE DIVIDED US IN THE NAMES OF CASTE, WE THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF INDIA DO NOT WANT TO CARRY FORWARD THIS ATTITUDE ANYMORE. Please don't get sidetracked from the motto of protest.
Intresting to read this comments.
My view is that, politicians are trying to hide the major problem of providing proper infrastructure and well edcuated teachers for Governement schools and rural schools.
Since they are not able to provide the best of education and infrastructure, they want to bring in reservations so as to accomdate people comming out from this schools/colleges.
The real thing I personally feel is which ever section he/she belongs to, need proper infrastructure and economic support to complete their education. If this problem addressed there will not be any reservation.
The econmic support that the government provides to this people has to be evaluated every years so that there can be checks.
In this way we can support all sections of the society.
Let me tell you even after providing reservations if they dont have money to spend on education "who will join". This will benefit the middle class or richer section of that category. We are not addressing the poor people here, were they will get money.
Intresting to read this comments.
My view is that, politicians are trying to hide the major problem of providing proper infrastructure and well edcuated teachers for Governement schools and rural schools.
Since they are not able to provide the best of education and infrastructure, they want to bring in reservations so as to accomdate people comming out from this schools/colleges.
The real thing I personally feel is which ever section he/she belongs to, need proper infrastructure and economic support to complete their education. If this problem addressed there will not be any reservation.
The econmic support that the government provides to this people has to be evaluated every years so that there can be checks.
In this way we can support all sections of the society.
Let me tell you even after providing reservations if they dont have money to spend on education "who will join". This will benefit the middle class or richer section of that category. We are not addressing the poor people here, were they will get money.
Intresting to read this comments.
My view is that, politicians are trying to hide the major problem of providing proper infrastructure and well edcuated teachers for Governement schools and rural schools.
Since they are not able to provide the best of education and infrastructure, they want to bring in reservations so as to accomdate people comming out from this schools/colleges.
The real thing I personally feel is which ever section he/she belongs to, need proper infrastructure and economic support to complete their education. If this problem addressed there will not be any reservation.
The econmic support that the government provides to this people has to be evaluated every years so that there can be checks.
In this way we can support all sections of the society.
Let me tell you even after providing reservations if they dont have money to spend on education "who will join". This will benefit the middle class or richer section of that category. We are not addressing the poor people here, were they will get money.
IT must be stated that
w.r.t the message by mr/ms "sonu"...
i think u have made an important point...this is NOT upper-caste vs. lower caste!!
this fight is against power-greedy politicians who want to DIVIDE AND RULE!!!
this is not brahmin vs. chamaar;this fight is for a free and fair INDIA.
and yes,talking about beneficiaries of even the current sc/st reservation,i agree that people who actually avail them are NOT backward in any sense,where as the people who NEED reservation are still rotting.
RESERVATION,IF AT ALL,SHOULD BE ECONOMY BASED,not caste based!!
IT SHOULD NOT GO BEYOND ONE GENERATION IN A FAMILY,so that we can help the needy.
EVERY CASTE HAS POOR AND RICH PEOPLE,LET US FIGHT THESE DIVISIVE POLICIES.
And yes!!Talking about THE SYSTEM in general,i agree tHAt India needs HONEST STATESMEN ,like Shiv Khera...rather than communal,corrupt and greedy leaders.
WE NEED INDIANS FIGHTING FOR INDIA!!
JAI HIND!!
MINE GURU JI!!
I think somebody raised an important point...
Do you have the guts to come out with your true identity!!!?
You are here regularly,c'mon ,let people know who you are.
Rajan Aggarwal
Chennai
Arjun Singh has done a lot of service for his party even if he has done lot of disservice for the country.
To suitably reward him, he should be immediately made Lt. Governor of Delhi.
All those in favour please email the Congress party at
aicc@congress.org.in
for attention of the Congress President.
Hurry! The reward should not wait.
Dear SONU
For every crime you say it is such and such caste..
I'll line up 20 persons , you interview them and tell me which caste are they from
The capabilities and the talent can be assessed,
In today's world caste cannot be judged.
So it is impossible to judge in a mob violence which caste is attacking which caste.
By the way , post Godhara did any leader of any caste step out of the confines of their cocoon and had the guts to say..'over my dead body ?'..
You see the point,
there are enough dalits leaders also, BUT ARE THEY REALLY INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THE STATE OF THE DOWNTRODDEN?
This media is not only suppressing truth but popularising falsehood, myths and promoting anti-social elements. Our people feel totally neglected in this monopoly mass media —the monopoly of the Brahminical Social Order.
The media is owned by the big business and managed by the upper castes.
In India, class and caste are the same.
Fortunately the influence of the media particularly the print media is limited. The English-knowing people are less than 2%. And those reading language papers are not even 30%. That is how the "India shining" false propaganda failed to click.
Why the media is anti-Dalit? This is because Dalits are hardly represented in the media.
This is the finding of a survey made in Delhi newspapers and journals. The same is true of Bangalore. And all other cities. Such is the deep-rooted prejudice against our people. How can such a media have social responsibility?
I am not criticising any individual for India's fast-expanding intellectual desert. The fault lies with the class-caste structure of India.
We cannot reform the media alone or any other sector of our society without destroying the existing class-caste nexus.
You like it or not, today's rulers of India belong to the upper class and upper caste. That is why it always upholds the status quo.
That is why every section of our society is in a deep crisis. And media is a small part of this society.
English dailies excel in trivia and trash and this is what today's readers also want.
Something is going wrong with our English-knowing population which is fortunately not even 2%.
But this 2% are the decision-makers and owners of property.
This is the cream of our society. But, alas, this cream is totally rotten. Rotten to the core.
Being over-fed, the full-time pre-occupation of this ruling class is entertainment and more entertainment — endless entertainment. The media has to cater to this tiger-turned man-eater.
Madest daily
That is why the English dailies are going mad. The Times of India is heading this list. The only daily which still remains somewhat sane is the Hindu, the Mount Road Mahavishnu — though it is also coming under pressure to go mad. I am warning you. Todays page-2 may soon become page-1.
We find hardly any hope in the existing national media.
We are deeply worried. The sickness has spread to the entire elite society.
We Dalits are the worst victims of this ruling class sickness.
The country is facing all-round crisis. The media is a small, though a powerful, part of this sick society. Sorry for this pessimistic picture but it is true.
This is the picture of the Indian society that we Dalits see daily. And we get this picture as we see this society from the bottom. The future appears bleak.
Striking AIIMS docs live in a glass houseAdd to Clippings
Akshaya Mukul
[ Tuesday, May 23, 2006 01:55:32 amTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
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NEW DELHI: The main grouse of AIIMS students - at the forefront of the stir against 27% reservation for OBCs - is that merit is being sacrificed at the altar of votebank politics. But they forget two things: 25% reservation that AIIMS graduates get in PG admission and the Supreme Court judgment of 2001 that declares the earlier system of 33% reservation for them bad in law.
In fact, the SC, while stating that 33% institutional reservation is "unconstitutional", agreed with the findings of the Delhi High Court, which had earlier set aside the reservation.
The HC had found that "AIIMS students, who had secured as low as 14% or 19% or 22% in the (all-India) entrance examination got admission to PG courses while SC or ST candidates could not secure admission in their 15% or 7% quota in PG courses, in spite of having obtained marks far higher than the in-house candidates of the institute." HC had analysed admission data over five years.
The apex court also agreed with the HC that the "figure of 33% reservation for in-house candidates was statistically so arrived at as to secure 100% reservation for AIIMS students. There were about 40 AIIMS candidates. The PG seats being 120, 33% thereof worked out to be 40." That meant all 40 AIIMS graduates were assured of PG seats.
Merit here was clearly being sacrificed, the study showed. For instance, in the January 1996 session, an AIIMS student with 46.167% marks - lowest for an AIIMS student that year - got PG admission.
However, an SC student with the same grades was admitted but denied coveted course such as obstetrics and gynaecology. The SC student got shunted to community while AIIMS students easily won berths in prestigious disciplines.
Twelve AIIMS candidates were selected even though they got less marks than the SC candidate who secured 60.33% marks. Similarly, 16 AIIMS students got admission to PG courses even though they got less marks than another ST student who got 62.16%.
Basing itself on this study, SC said, "Institutional reservation is not supported by the Constitution or constitutional principles." "A certain degree of preference for students of the same institution intended to prosecute further studies therein is permissible on grounds of convenience, suitability and familiarity with an educational environment," it added.
Preferences, the court said, had to be "reasonable and not excessive...Minimum standards cannot be so diluted as to become practically non-existent." In the similar vein, SC said, "It cannot be forgotten that the medical graduates of AIIMS are not 'sons of soil'. They are drawn from all over the country."
The court reasoned that these students had "no moorings in Delhi. They are neither backward nor weaker sections of society. Their achieving an all-India merit and entry in the premier institution of national importance should not bring in a brooding sense of complacence in them".
Extending the damning logic, the court said in preserving quotas for its own students, "the zeal for preserving excellence is lost. The students lose craving for learning."
The same finance minister who's dictated by life has taxed Indian's on cash withdrawals from their own deposits.
I sincerely feel that a lie detector should be inserted into their bodies.
Striking AIIMS docs live in a glass houseAdd to Clippings
Akshaya Mukul
[ Tuesday, May 23, 2006 01:55:32 amTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
RSS Feeds| SMS NEWS to 8888 for latest updates
NEW DELHI: The main grouse of AIIMS students - at the forefront of the stir against 27% reservation for OBCs - is that merit is being sacrificed at the altar of votebank politics. But they forget two things: 25% reservation that AIIMS graduates get in PG admission and the Supreme Court judgment of 2001 that declares the earlier system of 33% reservation for them bad in law.
In fact, the SC, while stating that 33% institutional reservation is "unconstitutional", agreed with the findings of the Delhi High Court, which had earlier set aside the reservation.
The HC had found that "AIIMS students, who had secured as low as 14% or 19% or 22% in the (all-India) entrance examination got admission to PG courses while SC or ST candidates could not secure admission in their 15% or 7% quota in PG courses, in spite of having obtained marks far higher than the in-house candidates of the institute." HC had analysed admission data over five years.
The apex court also agreed with the HC that the "figure of 33% reservation for in-house candidates was statistically so arrived at as to secure 100% reservation for AIIMS students. There were about 40 AIIMS candidates. The PG seats being 120, 33% thereof worked out to be 40." That meant all 40 AIIMS graduates were assured of PG seats.
Merit here was clearly being sacrificed, the study showed. For instance, in the January 1996 session, an AIIMS student with 46.167% marks - lowest for an AIIMS student that year - got PG admission.
However, an SC student with the same grades was admitted but denied coveted course such as obstetrics and gynaecology. The SC student got shunted to community while AIIMS students easily won berths in prestigious disciplines.
Twelve AIIMS candidates were selected even though they got less marks than the SC candidate who secured 60.33% marks. Similarly, 16 AIIMS students got admission to PG courses even though they got less marks than another ST student who got 62.16%.
Basing itself on this study, SC said, "Institutional reservation is not supported by the Constitution or constitutional principles." "A certain degree of preference for students of the same institution intended to prosecute further studies therein is permissible on grounds of convenience, suitability and familiarity with an educational environment," it added.
Preferences, the court said, had to be "reasonable and not excessive...Minimum standards cannot be so diluted as to become practically non-existent." In the similar vein, SC said, "It cannot be forgotten that the medical graduates of AIIMS are not 'sons of soil'. They are drawn from all over the country."
The court reasoned that these students had "no moorings in Delhi. They are neither backward nor weaker sections of society. Their achieving an all-India merit and entry in the premier institution of national importance should not bring in a brooding sense of complacence in them".
Extending the damning logic, the court said in preserving quotas for its own students, "the zeal for preserving excellence is lost. The students lose craving for learning."
Well Atlas and anonymous have raised interesting questions and i must say i will answer them without any qualms. It is good that we listen to each other with an open mind.
I post an interesting article by Yogendra yada of CNN_IBN fame And Satish Chandrathat would answer some of your queries.
To begin with i must say that it is shocking that students from our very best institutions are willing to re-enact the horribly inappropriate forms of protest from the original anti-Mandal agitation of 1990-91.
As symbolic acts, street-sweeping or shoe-shining send the callous and arrogant message that some people — castes? — are indeed fit only for menial jobs, while others are `naturally' suited to respectable professions such as engineering and medicine.
Perhaps the most crucial constant is the absence of a favourable climate of opinion. Outside the robust contestations of politics proper, our public life continues to be disproportionately dominated by the upper castes.
It is unsurprising, but still a matter of concern, that the dominant view denies the very validity of affirmative action. Indeed the antipathy towards reservations may have grown in recent years. The main problem is that the dominant view sees quotas and the like as benefits being handed out to particular caste groups.
This leads logically to the conclusion that power-hungry politicians and vote bank politics are the root causes of this problem. But to think thus is to put the cart before the horse.
rational and dispassionate analysis of this issue must begin with the one crucial fact that is undisputed by either side — the overwhelming dominance of upper castes in higher and especially professional education. Although undisputed, this fact is not easy to establish, especially in the case of our elite institutions, which have always been adamant about refusing to reveal information on the caste composition of their students and faculty. But the more general information that is available through the National Sample Survey Organisation clearly shows the caste-patterning of educational inequality. Some of the relevant data are shown in Tables 1 and 2.
Table 1 shows the percentage of graduates in the population aged 20 years or above in different castes and communities in rural and urban India. Only a little more than 1 per cent of Scheduled Tribes, Scheduled Castes, and Muslims are graduates in rural India, while the figure for Hindu upper castes is four to five times higher at over 5 per cent. The real inequalities are in urban India, where the SCs in particular, but also Muslims, OBCs, and STs are way behind the forward communities and castes with a quarter or more of their population being graduates. Another way of looking at it is that STs, SCs, Muslims, and OBCs are always below the national average while the other communities and especially Hindu upper castes are well above this average in both rural and urban India.
Table 2 shows the share of different castes and communities in the national pool of graduates as compared to their share of the total population aged 20 years or more. In other words, the table tells us which groups have a higher than proportionate (or lower than proportionate) share of graduates. Once again, with the exception of rural Hindu OBCs and urban STs, the same groups are severely under-represented while the Hindu upper castes, Other Religions (Jains, Parsis, Buddhists, etc.), and Christians are significantly over-represented among graduates. Thus the Hindu upper castes' share of graduates is twice their share in the population aged 20 or above in rural India, and one-and-a-half times their share in the population aged 20 or above in urban India. Compare this, for example, to urban SCs and Muslims, whose share of graduates is only 30 per cent and 39 per cent respectively of their share in the 20 and above population.
It should be emphasised that these data refer to all graduates from all kinds of institutions countrywide — if we were to look at the elite professional institutions, the relative dominance of the upper castes and forward communities is likely to be much stronger, although such institutions refuse to publish the data that could prove or disprove such claims.
Although it is implicitly conceded by both sides, upper caste dominance is explained in opposite ways. The upper castes claim that their preponderance is due solely to their superior merit, and that there is nothing to be done about this situation since merit should indeed be the sole criterion in determining access to higher education. In fact, they may go further to assert that any attempt to change the status quo can only result in "the murder of merit." Those who are for affirmative action argue that the traditional route to caste dominance — namely, an upper caste monopoly over higher education — still remains effective despite the apparent abolition of caste. From this perspective, the status quo is an unjust one requiring state intervention on behalf of disadvantaged sections who are unable to force entry under the current rules of the game. More extreme views of this kind may go on to assert that merit is merely an upper caste conjuring trick designed to keep out the lower castes.
What is wrong with this picture? Nothing, except that it is only part of a much larger frame. For if we understand merit as sheer innate ability, it is difficult to explain why it should seem to be an upper caste monopoly. Whatever people may believe privately, it is now beyond doubt that arguments for the genetic or natural inferiority of social groups are unacceptable. If so, how is it that, roughly speaking, one quarter of our population supplies three quarters of our elite professionals? The explanation has to lie in the social mechanisms through which innate ability is translated into certifiable skill and encashable competence. This points to intended or unintended systemic exclusions in the educational system, and to inequalities in the background resources that education presupposes.
It is their confidence in having monopolised the educational system and its prerequisites that sustains the upper caste demand to consider only merit and not caste. If educational opportunities were truly equalised, the upper castes' share in professional education would be roughly in proportion to their population share, that is, between one fourth and one third. This would not only be roughly one third of their present strength in higher education; it would also be much less than the 50 per cent share they are assured of even after implementation of OBC reservations!
If the upper caste view needs an unexamined notion of merit that ignores the social mechanisms that bring it into existence, the lower caste or pro-reservation view appears to require that merit be emptied of all its content. While this is indeed true of some militant positions, the peculiar circumstances of Indian higher education also allow alternative interpretations. In a situation marked by absurd levels of "hyper-selectivity" — 300,000 aspirants competing for 4000 IIT seats, for example — merit gets reduced to rank in an examination. As educationists know only too well, the examination is a blunt instrument. It is good only for making broad distinctions in levels of ability; it cannot tell us whether a person scoring 85 per cent would definitely make a better engineer or doctor than somebody scoring 80 per cent or 75 per cent or even 70 per cent.
In short, it is only a combination of social compulsion and pure myth that sustains the crazy world of cut-off points and second decimal place differences that dominate the admission season. Such fetishised notions of merit have nothing to do with any genuine differences in ability. The caste composition of higher education could well be changed without any sacrifice of merit simply by instituting a lottery among all candidates of broadly similar levels of ability — say, the top 15 or 25 per cent of a large applicant pool.
But the inequities of our educational system are so deeply entrenched that caste inequalities might persist despite some change. We would then be back where we started — with the apparent dichotomy between merit and social justice in higher education. How do we transcend this dilemma? Is there a way forward where both merit and social justice can be given their due?
Satish Deshpande is Professor of Sociology at Delhi University; Yogendra Yadav is Senior Fellow at the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi.)
This article is in Hindu. I am sorry i could not post the tables.
Mine GURJI
You are certainly an educated person , well informed and supporting Dalits.
1. Caste and class cannot be same. as you keep repeating.
If you know your dalits then Kabir's words
..'Jaat na poocho sadhu ki..
meaning There is no caste of a seeker.
But seeker of what?
Seeker of knowledge and TRUTH
Just in case you have forgotten your ( and our's) history. Go Read Kabir, Rahim, Mira, Gita...
What is your version of the history of India ?
If all you were so serious about rmoval of caste system than why only now.
Why not earlier when the government had not announced the reservations.
Why not remove the surnames which smack of castes.
Why Gupta, Sharma, Singh.
Mate i agree that the interests of the upper caste will get hurt, but what about the other side.
If the general seats are not affected why are you then complaining.
If you want an assessment of Reservations now, why not earlier.
MIne GURU
TELL US ONE NON-POLITICAL IMMINENT DALIT PERSON FROM INDIA's 5000 Yr. OLD HISTORY WHOSE WORDS YOU'LL LIKE TO ACCEPT.
BUT NON-POLITICAL
WHY The movement has taken momentum NOW is a good question.
INTERNET : This discussion cannot happen in person, we'll come to blows and no good will emerge.
As far as history is concerned, i am remembered of the third Sukta of Mandala ten in Rig Veda which says
" The Brahmin comes from the mouth of the Kalpurush, the Kshatriya from his arms and Vaishaya from belly and the thighs, the shudras from the feet".
If this is history than what is use of quoting it.
Will someone from the AIIMS Psycatrics Dept Please certify some of the folks sitting in the government as senile and of unsound mind and not capable of taking independent and informed decisions. Please remember being of sound mind is one of the criterion for holding office of Minister in the Union Cabinet. ;)
i had better prefer a Kshatriya called Budha, whose creed was destryoed by rampant brahmanism.
Pushyamitra Sunga, Shashank of Guada and the other guys were used by the Brahmins to crush Budhsim in India.
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